lol i stated an opinion just like u did my g but whatever

where do you guys rate him? how good is he?

okay but what about every other player on the list? they're all accurate listen as a valorant fan i do want tenz to stay with sen but i think we need to start being realistic and realize that syyko and kaplan aren''t as fond of tenz as the community is and that every report is pointing towards him being gone from the roster so its copium to keep thinking he will be.. just my opinion though

maybe so but he is reliable so i dont expect tenz to be there but am excited to see what moves make them promising

https://twitter.com/FlyNN_vlr/status/1578041296853340160?s=20&t=jCvDts9gtGPXX5pVp1fn9Q
-a notable leaker in the br community confirmed tenz is leaving sentinels for sure..

Note: he also said regarding SEN that with some news he got SEN does in fact look VERY promising will link below

https://twitter.com/FlyNN_vlr/status/1577880806730735617?s=20&t=jCvDts9gtGPXX5pVp1fn9Q

edit: sen fans dont get mad at me for just posting what i saw

word against word at this point.. either way the shit wont matter in a month.. he and his fanbase are trying to drag it on to shit on sen its pretty childish just drop it.. i dont get it shit like this happens in normal sports all the time yes the shit sucks but its a business and it sounds like it was in kaplan and syyko's hands and rob had nothing to do with it idk i think it should just be dropped and every party involved should move on its not that deep

yeah i dont think you comrpehend so im just going to leave it alone

srry let me break it down for u since u didnt understand.. obviously u would disagree or have a problem with my statement because u are one of the most well known shaz fans out there.. meaning u are known and when people see ur name they know u as a shaz fan lol it isn't about ur name in particular bud

• shaz fan

my response to your response:

ur name, one of the biggest shaz fans there is so the irony

after this drama ive come to the conclusion that shaz isn't the reason he gets hate its his fans
thanks for coming to my ted talk

edit: funny thing is i didn't particularly speak bad about shaz or his fans i just gave an opinion but ik they will take it offensive cause they know its true

yeah im not hating or fueling hate just saw the tweets and uploaded it cause at the end of the day we're fans and we dont know the full story thats what trigger me about shaz fans they immediately jumped to conclusions and started sending hate to rob and the org without knowing the whole story

no hate but its not really favors lol dephh is the better igl and on top of that idc what anyone says ur igl should not be streaming 5+ hours everyday it just builds bad habits.. look at all other top igls in the game and name one who streams as much as he does.. ppl like fns, boaster, saadhak, mindfreak, etc spend hours and hours in the server and watching vods in their free time and thats what puts them above other igls i have never thought that its not a problem that he streams its just how does he expect to be on the same level as these igls when while he's streaming they are putting in overtime to lead their teams to be the best and from what ive heard dephh has this type of work ethic and i love people who work hard to be the best so i support the signing

dont hate him but i hate his fans

https://twitter.com/robmooreEsports/status/1577758267094159361?s=20&t=L8BmKij48oSOCYJz_FJ_Xg
"I want to clarify the situation with
@ShahZaMk , on 9/21 I reminded him he did not have a contract for next season, we were most likely bringing in new coaches, they would decide the new roster and he was free to contact other teams."
"He had a long talk with our coaches and no contract was offered, before we had signed new players George Geddes leaked roster moves while shahz was on stream, that was not an announcement from the team, the timing was unfortunate but certainly not a surprise."

u didn’t see it dont worry about it

edit??? there was no edit

people dont understand zekken is a pure entry duelist on every map besides ascent look at his history he has only played sova on ascent and every other map he is jett, neon, or raze.. he's one of the most flexible players in the game but im pretty sure sen are signing him to be that star duelist player

dephh is deff better than valyn, valyn may have a higher ceiling but right now dephh is better

just saw that, im not the biggest shaz fan but thats so fucked up

is kez their gm? damn then idk i thought he was a diff role

franchised teams are required to have a non-coach gm

bro ik its not supposed to be funny but this comment is hilarious the skull emoji gets me everytime for some reason LMAO

whats ur ig lil bro lmao

why not get two of the best fa in the region regardless of roster

you as well man

why not? and i should've noted this but i did this based on the rumors that dapr is staying and tenz is gone

yeah i edited it my bad i meant less

dapr is confirmed staying on sen, his contract is 5 years so he has like more years left and i would prefer trent over bcj imo and i did this with the indication that tenz is gone and im not too big of a fan of dicey he especially with chamber being nerfed

ah yeah my bad i mixed them up pancada is their smokes my bad but yeah you're right less is mechanically insane and while dapr is good mechanically he's certainly not on less' level so maybe it wouldn't work

yeah that's true, op players have always been really dominate in val and cs and i've never really seen zekken op but maybe he could make it work? also when aspas played raze or neon loud didnt have dedicated op maybe that could work? or who knows dapr could op on chamber when zekken isn't on jett? bunch of speculation but i would really love this roster lol it prob wont happen but one can hope

its a question lol

with sen adding dephh and zekken does this mean shaz is 100% gone? dont think he'd co-igl with dephh

how dephh an L? lol

funny thing is i would bet all the bread in my bank acc ive fucked more hoes than u but word

zekken - entry
dephh - flex/igl
marved - controller
dapr - sentinel
trent - initiator (fade/sova/breach)

before u guys say "no dedicated chamber or not having their star on chamber" go look at Loud's comps from champs and before that they never really dedicated aspas (their star) to chamber and instead had less who is their sentinel play chamber on certain maps.. with chamber nerfs rumored this could be what sen goes for and would be the best possible roster for them imo because dapr has always been a great sentinel and they could go for something similar to loud where the team doesn't rely on chamber as much and instead just synergy and a well rounded roster with no weaknesses say what u want but each player in this roster could be argued for top 3 in NA at their position..
in no patricular order
entries - after his performance in Copenhagen zekken is arguably top 3 NA in the mix with names like victor asuna and zellsis
igl - although dephh only igl T side for xset he was a up there with the likes of fns, vanity and with four months of work he could take over igl full time and do it pretty well imo and also dapr could help with some mid rounding on ct side as he used to do that for sen when they were winning according to shaz
controller - cmon do we even need an explanation? its the iceman but if marved isn't possible sen could stick with sick for this role and develop him into one of best controllers in the region maybe even world with time and practice (h.m. if they dont get marved and dont stick with hunter: aproto and moose)
sentinel - say what u want about dapr but he has always been one of the best sentinels in NA regardless of sen's win/loss production especially before chamber was released and with the new structure and strats coming in he could return to that form and take on a role similar to less
initiator - trent is one of the best up and coming young players in the entire world players less than 18 that i believe will be superstars are guys like zekken and alfajer and i believe trent is in the mix for this as well like this guy was insane in lcq and just seems like he will only continue to get better as he gets more experience if i was a gm at sen trent and zekken would be my TOP TWO targets after hiring the new staff

PSA: I did not come here to argue so leave your thoughts and opinions if you do so happen to read all of this but do it respectfully jits

everyone on this sub talking like they know shit bro LMAO George has literally talked to people INSIDE sen and came to this conclusion ya mfs just mad that ya favorite streamers are getting called out for not caring about winning
not willing to put in the work = cut them from the roster its that simple cause like he said there are so many players willing to put in the work to win just like in normal pro sports.. no one who doesnt want to put in the work is safe from being benched

edit: idgaf about George but IF this is true it is fucked up that some people willing to put in the work dont have orgs but those who dont care do have a spot on a starting roster
hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard

idk.. george also said many time zellsis wasnt going to c9 so could be a smoke screen

tenz hasnt been confirmed to be leaving but ppl just take one sentence and sprint with it.. its possible they resign him just not beiing prioritized as much as other things rn because his contract does not expire until the end of the year so why should it be a priority right now lmao people dont understand how this stuff works and it shows there may be an arrangement between the org and him that they will negotiate a new contract when everything else is done

there is no way they sign brawk lmao like 0%.. eeiu, trent, and even dapr (who has been confirmed to be staying on the roster like 20 times already) are better fits

yes george has said this like 20 times.. whether its as 6th man or starter dapr will be there fs

no igl and zekken is a duelist bruh he only plays sova on ascent every other map he's jett,raze, or neon

u just proved to me u didnt watch xset and im telling u thats where ur wrong zekken does not play skye or kay0.. (he's played kay0 one time in the last 90 days and he hasnt played skye since before stage one at the beginning of the year. he is a duelist who played sova on ascent) skye was played by bcj and kay0 by dephh ur saying im chatting bullshit but saying dapr had one good map on fade it just shows u only look at k/d because his util usage and and support was good on the agent and dephh literally doesnt have a playstyle of anchor so u just proved my point.. just say u didnt watch xset play and that u dont like dapr and move on my g

let me first say this lol i did not once say sen would run double duelist but anyways watch vct champions.. ur talking about a content creator tournament where zekken was playing sova.. did u not see him against some of the best teams in the world playing neon raze and jett.. i thought some of the stuff i was saying could be understood without me going in depth but i guess not.. yes zekken on sova = good but he is not playing that on every map so let me explain this to you.. zekken did not play fade not one time on xset because he IS NOT a designated initiator go look at dapr's performance on fade in lcq (he was strictly fade outside of 3 maps) and tell me it was bad he was arguably the third best fade in the tournament behind trent and derek with only two weeks of prac on the agent.. using ur hypothetical roster for u to understand what i mean.. dephh is not an anchor, in the last 60 days he has only played cypher one time and astra one time the rest of the maps he has played breach or kay0 so no he is not an anchor. lets take ascent as the map
ascent**
tenz - chamber/jett
dephh - kay0
zekken - sova
marved - astra
sick - ?????? ur not putting him on killjoy so dont say that and why would u put dephh on kj when he has experience on kay0.. u know who u could put on kj on this map? dapr
NOTE: this is literally using what these players have played recently and it applies to many other maps but im not going that ion depth

tldr: zekken has only played sova on literally one map and that map is ascent (he is an entry duelist check his match history) dapr is good on the fade role and has proven it with just two weeks of practice why bring sick in to play that role when he hasnt played it before yet alone hasnt played in 7 months its literally taking a gamble you dont need to take when dapr has proved he can be good on the meta info gatherer (fade) and dephh is not an anchor so that argument is wrong they would still need dapr as anchor on certain maps.. sick's role just does not fit this roster's comps is all im saying no hate

bro... this is pure delusion sick is not a better entry than zekken and the fact that u think they are signing zekken to play strictly initiator shows youre not familiar with zekken.. yes he is a great sova but he is also one of the best entries in the entire game also sick has not played pro valorant in like 7 months and u think he will be starting on their franchised roster like its just unrealistic i love sick but it is way more likely for dapr to start than sick thats all i gotta say just dont get ur hopes up on sick being their starter with all this talent out there.

this lineup makes no sense with sick its more of a role fit for dapr considering he's played fade before at a good level and they aren't signing zekken to be purely fade/sova if they' sign him itll be as entry with tenz on awp

he took on some mid rounding when they were winning titles.. not saying he would be an insane igl because he has a really laid back chill personality but to say he would be terrible is a reach.

they arent signing skuba with people like marved, moose, aproto, ayrin, and valyn available

edit: supamen and zander could be argued as well

there is no shot LMAO

most realistic pred