I mean, no they shouldn't. They don't have the track record to prove what you are suggesting. As someone has explained, it is based on wins and losses and thankfully not on the whim of vlr users.

One of the stupidest takes I have ever read.

cringe

Finally, someone with a brain.

Canadian fan who cheers for NA when they win, but will turn around and laugh at them when they lose. Also puts SMB on his profile probably after yesterday, and will swiftly remove it when they lose at Berlin. Classic VLR shitposter.

But, but.... Gambit lost 0-2 to Acend when it really mattered, lol. When there was actually something on the line and there was the potential to not qualify for Berlin, Acend beat Gambit. Are you all so stupid that your base your opinions on one match or one series or one performance?

You think they didn't take the NaVi game seriously? Huh? That's a strange thing to say. Of course they did, lol. They just had a very bad series.

That's a strange take. We've literally had one international competition in Valorant so far. The game is 18 months old. Do you really suppose SEN is just going to dominate Valorant forever? That's a shortsighted perspective. Even if they do dominate for years to come, there are other regions outside of NA where the competition is much fiercer. EU, for example, which still hasn't really settled into an established order and almost any team in the top 5 could be considered the best depending on the day (and the meta).

I mean, he isn't that inconsistent. Look at his performances over the past 10 games and you'll see his ACS is very solid and consistent. He had one bad series, chill.

I mean, that's just being disrespectful to Liquid, imo. We know Gambit's results on Icebox, and so logic tells us that Liquid played very well to bring the map back to that scoreline, not that Gambit were bad.

Sorry, what's your point?

As opposed to making wild statements based on absolutely nothing other than bias opinion? Stay in school, kid.

The ranking is based on results, mate. It isn't a popularity contest adjudicated by judges... they are second because they win lots of games and lots of important games. I'm sorry that logic upsets you, but stop making dumb threads and posts complaining about elo.

shhh, child.

1head take

I mean, 90% of the people on VLR are just kids who get off on putting other people down by shitting on their favorite teams. It's like a microcosm of what society looks like when we can all hide behind screens and type on keyboards.

"My team good, your team bad. Me big and strong and cool, you loser KEKW."

Yeah, it was honestly sad to watch. They should have been up 5 or even 6-0 at one point.

Answer honestly, do you know anything about Team Liquid? You really shouldn't start these threads without a bit of research. I'll do the hard work for you this one time: Soulcas is their initiator, and he is one of the best Skye players in EU. Unfortunately, Liquid changed their composition to include a Raze, which is also one of his best Agents. It worked very well versus Forze and Fnatic, but sadly not against Gambit.

tbf, playing Valorant has nothing to do with understanding screen resolution.

Lower level? Not really. They have way better results than Gambit. They won EMEA Finals, C2, and have been to a Masters LAN. Gambit haven't really done anything outside the CIS region...

But I guess Yenz and Shazham said they are good so everyone bandwagon.

You watch one performance and draw this conclusion? He's been incredible in the past, and very recently too. Really bad take.

I find the NA casters are somewhat robotic, though. The EMEA ones might not be quite as articulate, but at least they sound like people. The NA casters sound like they've been made on a production line.

I don't think we know enough about Navi to say they're the "worst team out all the qualified ones," tbh. You're basing your statement on very little information to make a silly joke about "Choquid."

If you're talking "on paper," then Liquid has to be there. In practice, though...

Been watching Plat Chat, have we? That's an absurd idea. Brim is already a decent Agent, and certainly viable -- as demonstrated by dozens of teams who play him outside of NA. Don't let NA fanboys tell you otherwise. Not every Agent has to be some meta-defining, incredible must-pick choice.

Pure aim he is the best, but soulcas is a more versatile and all-around better player. He understands utility in a way that ScreaM doesn't, imo.

They ALWAYS play double duelist on Icebox, though. This isn't new.

SEN and V1 Iceland scrimbux: "Gambit are so good"

VLR: Gambit are so good!

Tell me you know nothing about Valorant and esports without saying you know nothing about Valorant and esports.

Huh? You're lost, mate.

ScreaM is always on Reyna or Jett when they play Icebox. Nothing new.

Which EU teams have they beaten in officials?

Liquid underneath a completely new Turkish team with very little experience and no proven track record of doing anything in Valorant? Come on, that's just absurd. Gambit is also totally unproven on an international level. Liquid should be higher, stop the madness.

Edit: See how stupid your ranking is now that Liquid won C2? Morons.

People still doubting Liquid, smh.

"Many people" are the vocal minority you shouldn't be listening to. Try and form your own opinions, man.

No it shouldn't, mate. Their run through open quals, challengers, and EMEA to get to Iceland was incredibly impressive. Nothing fluke about it. This is competitive sports, it's tough out there for these teams to stay consistent with so many other playersgridning hard for the same success.

Hard to say though because Jamppi and soulcas have actually been playing brilliantly up until yesterday. Maybe it was just a bump yesterday...

El classico is kinda appropriate since no other team in EU has really achieved the same feats as Liquid and Fnatic. Masters 1 was kinda a non event.

There's nothing to "trust." It's based on elo and, therefore, based on results. If you like basing everything on opinion, then, sure, it isn't ideal. But if you like facts then ranking by elo is great. I'm a facts guy.

Maybe the way you should look at the ranking is that they are a step behind current form, because obviously they cannot predict the future. Use the rankings to give you an understanding of where the teams are based on their past results. Again, there's nothing to "trust," lol.

Tell me you're a silly child without saying you're a silly child. Cheers.

Clearly doesn't know competitive sports, let alone anything to do with playing Valorant. You don't enter competitions and just lose for the fun of it. That's not how professionals think.

This forum is a disgrace.

You aren't paying attention, mate. TENSTAR is a top team in very good form. This is not an easy game for Liquid.

Yep, I agree. The point I'm trying to make is that there is unlikely to be some big regulatory body interested in suddenly making esports more than it already is. The success of esports is just down to whether publishers care enough to invest. If they see it as a good advertisement for the game, there will be an esports scene. But make no mistake: the competitions themselves are not what publishers care about. The people who are making esports happen (the publishers) don't care about legitimizing the practice of playing video games professionally. They care about whether incorporating esports into the game's marketing strategy will increase sales.

People in this thread are fundamentally misunderstanding what drives the growth of esports. Esports is driven by game publishers who are solely interested in using professional tournaments to sustain interest in their games. VCT is a marketing tool for Riot. Sustained interest in Valorant due to esports competitions = more in-game cosmetics sold. Riot does not earn anything on esports as a sector specifically (sponsorships and partnerships just help to lessen costs). In fact, very few segments of esports are profitable.

So, to answer the question of where esports will be in 10 years you are better to ask yourselves which games will be popular and whether they lend themselves to professional competitions. There will never be this magical moment where esports is suddenly recognized alongside conventional sports. It comes down to whether there are wealthy publishers incentivized to support their games with massive competitions. Without that, there is no esports. Well, there would be esports, but it would exist in a much smaller capacity, as it did back in the early 2000s before publishers suddenly realized its value as a marketing tool and took control.

Credentials - I am involved in market research.

Vitality is in top form right now. Not sure where you've got the impression they will be easy.

Soulcas and coach Sliggy have already said he is 99% certain to play next week. If for whatever reason he isn't, Sliggy will play.

Astra is not really part of the current meta since the nerfs.

Ok, Asuna then.

Can we PLEASE get some moderation on this forum to prevent absurd threads like this?