There are different categories of baits.
1: baits that do not need your attention, absolute 0/8s you ignore these and everyone knows these are baits. They do not require refutation at all.

2 baits with some truth to them, they are meant to rile up the opposition, these baits get support from other baiters, and people who want to support the narrative, they require different levels of refutation, people who respond are usually ones to stop the narrative from furthering and to stop “misinformation”

3: trembolona level baits - these baits are absolutely believable, to a layman, it looks incredibly attractive and well thought out, these baits are refutable but still people believe them and agree with them.

The issue with people like shownu and Babysasuke, they speak facts sometimes, there is a reason people engage, there would be no reason to engage when everyone knows it’s a bait, it’s low quality and low effort. It requires effort to refute baits 2 and 3, If you ignore him, you completely dismiss and scoff at him and remove his power, but the fact that you engage with him, it shows that it has some merit, whether small or large. That’s what gives people like him fuel to post more.

You kinda have to be, when you have aspas hitting shots like he does, it’s like how a vaccine works.

Americas is miles better at pearl than EMEA according to sliggy

Zeek needs to go back on his comfort picks back when he won champs. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

The title seems misleading, I’m asking the reasons why people dislike him, not, “ why do you dislike him, you shouldn’t dislike him” I have already assumed the narrative that he is disliked, as seen by the other thread.

Yes, but some baiters are more hated than others, while some baiters are loved, it is all dependent on personal preference, although some personal preferences are completely void of substance.

You mean malcolm x, Muhammad Ali

I’m not defending him, thought I was being neutral, I don’t see shownu any different from people like Babysasuke and the rest of the baiters on this site.

Debate is: if people dislike him because:

he likes fnatic too much and puts other teams down? (It is true somewhat)

Other regions dislike him because he preaches EU supremacy and puts other regions down? (which is dumb, imagine feeling pride because of where you were born you could’ve been born anywhere, however some people are aligned to some ideas based on where they were born, e.g. the stuff you see in NA )

He speaks the truth but in a harsh way so they ain’t ready to hear it?(Reasonable, look at people in history who were shut down because they spoke the truth)
They cannot refute him, thru try to stop him like people try to stop Babysasuke but he keeps coming back? (Although Babysasuke is much better at defending himself)

Cannot seem figure it out.

Edit: The title seems misleading, I’m asking the reasons why people dislike him, not, “ why do you dislike him, you shouldn’t dislike him” I have already assumed the narrative that he is disliked, as seen by the other thread.

He is him

Who is the official sub

They need to be consistent with the rules, either cancel the match with 1+ or don’t cancel even if 5 players are sick

They won

KC cooked the pan to a sizzle but forgot to pay the bills to keep the gas burning

Yep, it happened

Please don’t play op on attack whilst playing smokes again pleaseeee

I wouldn’t be mad, I think fnatic would beat fpx too after that game

Why are u mad about oil clubs, they are everywhere.

Frod the former t1 coach?

Enghhh went to NA for a reason. Maybe the NA lifestyle appealed to him? Can he get green card?

Indian Israeli, that’s a new one

WHAT IM SAYINGG

I will not stand for this nivera praise

Division 1 hater, so u are competitively the worst kind of hater, if there was a list of top haters, u would be on it. Not saying it’s you but that’s a d1 hater

WHY THE DOUBLE OP, SCREAM IS ENOUGH

D1 hater.

Don’t insult me, I’m right about this. I am so mad rn about nivera. This guy needs to play rifle or play jett with op, which is impossible now. So stop playing op. It’s not viable for him on smoke/ sentinel, which opers are the most impactful? Jett players. If he was truly impactful, he would be excused for his op because he would be insane, but his role is so important, so he needs to humble himself and stop playing op, or whoever is putting him on op needs to stop this nonsense.

Sry for the first sentence, they literally lost because nivera wasn’t peeking heaven when atakaptan got 2with his frenzy, no info

Get ready for the downvotes

I spoke without knowledge, mb

Xeppaa and Zellsis joke around way too much, can’t seem to tell when they’re joking or being serious, when you start to joke around like this, you start to lose yourself, ever heard of “fake it till you make it?” It’s true and it can work against your favor too if you don’t take things seriously, you only lie to yourself when you lie. you become a joke yourself and you blur the lines of what’s real and serious into something that becomes casual and unserious. How can I take you seriously when you yourself don’t present yourself that way? Have respect for yourself.

Leaf is a chill guy, we don’t see him speak much but he probably has good insights.

Nah lil habibi do at least 4 lines

Do the same at Brazil then? And Istanbul ?

C9 potter if things don’t work out as coach with mce, good coach + best scout working on the same team

this the most NA thing/comeback I’ve ever heard. When did it all go wrong 💀

Potter is actually an insane coach, put her on a top team she would show you what she’s capable of, I remember last year when EG beat optic in the group stage after winning Reykjavik, they looked really good and played well against them, but in playoffs they bombed out. I think they just need to give potter more time, and not sack her if she doesn’t qualify for playoffs/Tokyo, however it could be that potter goes on to win more if she goes out in style, and gets picked up by another team.

This is why t1 pros get mad at ranked when they play against 13 year olds who grind TF out. They are up and coming

Supamen is dying in t2 someone pick him 😔😔

Imagine u shorty someone and get 8 headshots, that skews it a bit no? Maybe remove shotgun stats but idk if you can do that

Yay lost a 1v3 on 14-15, which lost them the map, sure it was one mistake but a grave one that lost them a map, 1v3 I might add

If you have, then I’m happy for you, I hope you keep benefiting others.

I don’t gain a single thing from “ virtue signalling” except for someone to read it and be conscious about their own actions, and change their ways from something worse, to something better.
Sometimes you read something and it doesn’t sit right, if you don’t do anything about it, it’s a wasted thought since others can benefit from it just you have. Also, being someone who is useful for others, is way better than being someone who isn’t, yet they may both have their own merits. Hopefully, we can all strive to be better, since we may see evil around us, yet we continue to stagnate, it’s when we enjoin the good, will we reap goodness in ourselves.

Idk, someone could go on a gaming forum, depressed, lonely, and sad, they read a message, Who knows, it could be a message that furthers their misery, or it could be something that uplifts them and benefits them.

Even if it’s a joke, don’t be casual about something so serious. It ruins lives, families, and its wasteful. It’s crazy how they don’t forbid people from betting, when it’s a clear evil, the house always wins, and they want the house to keep winning, they do not care about you

It’s what I’m saying, be empathetic, and think about those who have less, just because you can afford it, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea, probably one of the worst ideas you can do with with money, some people are born into poverty that did not choose that abode. Do not be arrogant, be thankful for that blessing and spend wisely, give in charity, give to your family first, give back home, give to your good friends who are in need. You will be much happier doing this rather than to spend aimlessly even a single penny while betting.

Betting like you have all the money in the world, it’s arrogance

Cool. 👍

when does the meaningless cycle of media entertainment end?

that first game was just the start of many glorious performances

hes trolling you

all anime is the same , all movies are the same, all tv series are the same, all music is the same.