nobody cares

NRG competing in this means that they removed the rule where teams who qualified to challengers cant compete in smaller tournaments, correct?

but u didnt, so now what?

yes, that means theyre at least top 4, but any results outside of the ones needed to qualify are irrelevant

no because teams who already qualified can watch their games and prepare whereas the teams that qualified through challengers 2 cant prepare for the teams who already qualified

"top 2 in EU"
beating teams in seeding matches doesnt mean youre the second best team in EU KEKW

extra lan spot to japan? did u watch iceland?

niesow was arguably better than nukkye back during first strike, really excited to see him play again, and if its for heretics then thats even better

subbing out ur igl and star player???

Fucking garbage boomers and pay check stealers on that team. All of them. How they fuck are they still this trash, do they want to go to Berlin, or? This is a genuine question. Don't give me the 'it's for seeding' bullshit because they literally said on twitter that they'd actually TRY to win for better seeding and money. So no, they werent trolling, they just genuinely suck. They're still making the same mistakes from 3 fucking months ago from the Playoffs in stage 2 where sentinels 9-3's them on haven like wtf are u doing man? u had 2 months to practise and u get 2-0'd cant even get a map. Pathetic from them holy fuck. They dont have the skill or motivation to go to berlin with what they're showing us rn. They have so much talent yet are sttill so trash losing to washed up tier 2 cs pros

Fucking garbage boomers and pay check stealers on that team. All of them. How they fuck are they still this trash, do they want to go to Berlin, or? This is a genuine question. Don't give me the 'it's for seeding' bullshit because they literally said on twitter that they'd actually TRY to win for better seeding and money. So no, they werent trolling, they just genuinely suck. They're still making the same mistakes from 3 fucking months ago from the Playoffs in stage 2 where sentinels 9-3's them on haven like wtf are u doing man? u had 2 months to practise and u get 2-0'd cant even get a map. Pathetic from them holy fuck. They dont have the skill or motivation to go to berlin with what they're showing us rn. They have so much talent yet are sttill so trash losing to washed up tier 2 cs pros

G2 100T BBL and TSM

icebox would be good if they reworked b also bind is the worst map

no cool lurks, no cool timings, no mid, bind is literally just

take hookah or showers
then hit site

No.

the only insecurity i have is the fact that i use an esports forum LOL nice try tho

idk buddy statistically ur much more likely to be obese than me,,, id place more money on you being obese than myself

deluding urself KEKW

ill obviously be sleeping much better than you because i wont spend my whole night thinking about 100throws LOL

youre projecting about projecting buddy

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

https://renewbariatrics.com/mexico-obesity-statistics/

we're obese but not as obese as you guys

32% to 42%

love u...

i love u fren

oderus is the current igl for kcp so who knows maybe itd work

how have you only been on this forum for a month and have 1000 posts please get a life

SEN vs Furia, Acend vs Vision Strikers

you switch your flair more than they switch their roles

V1 is playing with a sub lol

rats on rats: a trail of wind and fire

not as bad as cs

"Nah, past matches are not prep possibilities because teams evolve and adapt their strats and tendencies." this literally just isnt always true, there are so many instances where teams just straight up fail to identify their tendencies or have identified them and just straight up failed to fix them. SEN had the same default on split attack with dapr and sinatraa playing together towards A main and A ramp for like 5 months. 100T had the same issue for months where they would crumble from mid aggression on ascent attack. Plus, sometimes tendencies just straight up are way more subtle than the things I listed and can only really be picked up on in a game. Since you have to do vod reviews through twitch vods, its way harder to pick up on tendencies than it is when youre playing against a team in real time.

You keep saying "it doesnt matter that theyve played more matches because they have the same prep possibilities" yet past matches themselves are prep possibilities. do you think that fnatic had the same prep possibilities in the grand finals as they did when they first faced SEN? of course not, not only did they have an extra vod, but they also had a lot of stuff they learned in the game while it was playing out, which is something NA teams have significantly more of. Just stop it bro

it doesnt matter that NA teams have played significantly more matches against SEN????? This is just stupid. More time playing against SEN= more tendencies to pick up on, easier to pick up on trends, better grasp of their defaults/strats, etc.

"Unproven, and either way, both have same prep possibilities. Fnatic probably had more tbh, 2 weeks in iceland compared to 4 days in NA finding out the bracket. Scrims dont matter once again."
Unproven yet still likely. And the results of scrims may not matter, but what you find in those scrims and what tendencies you pick up from scrimming DOES matter. Just please don't speak again, even shahz and the players on SEN themselves don't agree with you.

"this is not a valid argument at all lmao. all the teams at iceland had equal chances to play sen exclusively if they wanted to, even more than NA. scrimbux dont matter either way. EU had the same preparation options as NA, that isnt an argument at all."

oh my god you just missed my entire point, im not trying to excuse fnatics loss, im saying the reason NA generally is more competitive with SEN compared to how the international scene did against them is due to NA having significantly more practice against SEN than the teams at iceland did. GenG has probably scrimmed and played against SEN SIGNIFICANTLY more than Fnatic, so no shit theyd be able to take a map at some point. I'm not trying to discredit GenG, cuz they played very well, but saying "oh well this team in NA took who has played and probably scrimmed against SEN several times more than fnatic took a map against SEN and fnatic couldnt, so obviously GenG is better than fnatic" is just stupid

And how is this map loss against GenG any more valid? If you wanna talk about preparation, NA teams have significantly more practice and generally play a lot more against SEN so obviously Fnatic who could only watch outdated vods of SEN and only had 2 weeks of prep for iceland will not do as well against SEN compared to SEN's domestic rivals. Plus, I'd probably say that SEN rn does not look as good as they did in iceland, but obv thats just based off the eye test and subjectivity

ok wait geng isnt the worst team LOL they look solid

when did people in esports just stop using the eye test and just started spouting braindead purely results oriented takes that have no nuance.

"fnatic got no maps against SEN but serenity got a map off SEN during an open qualifier so now SRN>Fnatic"

i mean current 100t wouldve done better at iceland,,, but iceland was 2 months ago, and 2 months ago 100t werent as good imo

0/8

LOL ur team still not making it to berlin, KCP SEN V1 TO BERLIN no cap

KKKKKKKKKK

V1 2-0

KCP 2-1 NV

ODERUS IS GOING TO FOOKIN CLOSED WUALIFIERS LFG

"NA teams are the only ones to take maps off SEN" yeah when SEN was considerably weaker than they were at masters. I mean, SEN dropped a map to t1, do you think theyre better than fnatic? even shahzam has stated many times before that he rates the t1 scene of EU significantly higher than NA.

they dont release the streams until like 1 hr before the match

didnt shahz say that the t1 of EU dogs on t1 NA lol

lol even the org is scummy all of them deserve to be kicked not just a suspension

holy fuck

"omg if mikeysnipey drops 40 on c9 on icebox then its guaranteed a win for foxy" such shit logic LOL