Sure you can try to ban people but they will always come again, especially when they make up such a large proportion of this community (not saying you shouldnt ban them just saying its not the solution). And about the "Encouraging change in places which people expect it the least" part, in what I said, I did not exclude the fact that you should create awareness in spaces where it wouldnt be common. I just stated that it should happen in a different way or environment. It could be on broadcast or in a vlr news, it just has to be more controlled, so only factual information can be spreaded that isnt hate. Especially because people seem to worry for the affected and many have enough of seeing a lot of uninformed people argue for hours about the same thing over and over again, we shouldnt have threads were we talk about the diffrences in sexes the x time.