I get they’re trolling in groups cuz they qualified but they’re literally just trolling in play offs too. Amazing. They’re so good

You can’t lose to prx again if you can’t even play them in the first place 5Head strat from bleed

Devs vs pros in beta or something

I’m guessing munchkin is decent with English cuz of ex overwatch league experience etc?
C9 Korea reunion starting that’s nice.
Looking back at that roster it actually had potential to be world class Tf. Maybe 1 or even 0 moves away from being a top tier international team

Legit the only actual team faze have ever had. What actual structure and good roles did faze have before this except double duelists run it down comps

Man the second I thought xset had a chance

I miss F4q

masters 1 sen from last year wouldn't even make it out of the open quals this stage.

Damn this was actually pretty close

Optic
C9
Guard
Xset
Nrg
100t
Lg
Eg
Tsm
Faze
Ghost
Knights
V1
Sen

nice

damn those are some odds tf

Yep atleast 1-4 tsm can brag infront of 0-5 sen in groups

Bro what are they doing in that retake they’re just playing ranked LMAO

Why is the strat they double push mid where an omen full runs up first cat 30 secs in to the round

It’s okay as long as they win from pure firepower the comp is viable.

They look good and surprised by their individual/teamplay. but they're not back until they are top 2

It's actually crazy how much better these teams look and how much depth they have compared to like even first strike. and these aren't even the best teams in NA

Maybe a problem teams like m3c and guard are having are they are forcing role changes. It works theoretically in scrims and environments with low pressure but in actual matches the players aren't as experienced or comfortable in their new roles. They're going to get less value in their utility and have a harder time adapting midround/throughout the game cuz they don't have the experience/comfort to make those decisions. Kinda just looks like the players are lacking confidence too and dk why, they're apparently both doing great in scrims recently so just nerves ig.

how is this game 9-7 none of these players have more than 8 kills. Everyone else literally has more than double their kills in the other team.

Nah literally a fluke. They fucked up like really bad individually and team play/utility wise and literally in every single way possible but still a fluke

What is this t3 ranked player decision-making fiesta

I’m genuinely so confused. They are playing so confused

gg bdog is awake

Surely they don't lose another 2 players right before maybe looking the best they ever have and decide to make roster moves again.

No I mean the odds switched from lg is favoured to faze is favoured after the move. but ig not anymore it's 50/50 now for some reason

Not even yinsu would watch oglu vs fnc over a major

Why and how do Turkish teams throw and make other teams throw so much

How do the odds switch to faze after a roster move

Guard 2-0
Lg2-1
100t2-0
Eg2-1
Nrg2-1
C92-1

Why do I kinda feel like net would be a player that steel and xeta would both want and that t1 would be willing to poach

I'm guessing from this night market the next agent or map is going to be some water theme thing. Maybe literally an aqua man whose smokes slow n stuff. An underground ancient tomb themed map would be cool

Not even their igl. Feel like he wants to igl and that's why he's off.

I know but what I’m thinking about is how if they’re the best team in the world in scrims for literally years now they’re not showing it enough. Last stage, already this stage and even champs finals they should have won if they played to their best level. I see nAts playing -a lot of chamber so I guess maybe they’re trying to refix their roles again for consistency. Hope this has been in the works for a while tho and they don’t get fucked by it this week for switching too late.

Yeah people say they’re the best in scrims but they’re just a bunch of young chokers so unlucky. If they stick together one of those teams is eventually going to have the first era in Valorant cuz they are literally that good and should have that much potential. Kinda feel like those are the teams that you can see the most burnout and just mental blocks in. Whether that’s because they practice/play the most or they literally just care that much, they need to get performance/mental coaches if they don’t already.

If xset don’t make it to Copenhagen Zander will go to xset just cuz why not.

Apparently there’s bigger news that depends on a teams performance. No one else except sen is in that spot and is actually playing. Shahzam benched and Zander to sen if it happens?

Bdog is going to become the s1mple of valorant

Eg 2-1
13-8 5-13 13-9

The difference is he's just established as a t1 player in NA now. He's great and has potential to literally be at the top of NA. Very excited to see how good and far he can get. Crazy to think about how he's become the most experienced Valorant generated talent and that he's basically established in the NA scene as t1 because xset took a risky chance on him a year ago.

San francisco

Who is liminha can someone explain. I’m interested in imperials story. Did fallen just get a couple players from the lg/sk roster and get a couple young players he trusted?

Guaranteed orgs probably
Feel like the only guaranteed br team is loud and maybe furia a close second

For NA 100t, c9, optic and maybe guard/faze for their size and wealth.
Only reason I’m thinking there’s a chance no sen is because they’re known to have little to no infrastructure and just be a player run org/team. Ish
Literally the org caring and actually being able to create stable systems for their Valorant program is going to be a factor.

There’s a chance riot will actually invest in teams like xset but the size/popularity is still going to be a factor they’ll consider. It’s going to be a longterm commitment where the teams will also grow with the league so idk but Literally every other top org has more staff/teams and just a better system because they can afford it. Just depends on if riot thinks xset will be able to actually run and create a more complex valorant system with better funding ig.

I hope Kru

fnatic
liquid
m3c

I think it’s kinda smart in a business perspective tho. Kinda weird to have pushed it as far with their slight success ig but they’re going till they can’t. Having a franchise spot in this NA scene would actually be so important for t1’s brand long-term and operations in general. Staying in NA for now does makes sense tho. Because they’re continuing in the off-season it doesn’t mean they’re going to be in NA next year for vct but that they’re just going to be NA for the time being. They have a famous igl, xeta and a bunch of young and hungry players. Any t2 teams goal this offseason is going to be to get the stonks of their players up and try to make the most profit possible. It’s crazy how even as a t2/3 team because they are t1 they can still make it into the league. T1 still have a chance to show they can grow and be a good team in NA and if they show enough dedication and success in the break maybe they will have a higher chance of being considered. With how big the NA market is rn and how it’s growing, a longterm investment for this region is and always has been a good idea. If they can’t find success in NA tho as soon as they switch to Korea they will 100 percent get a slot. There are literally no orgs and t1 is the biggest Korean org. Riot would literally have no other choices. And switching to Korea is literally no rush rn. There are so many free agents that you could pick up anytime to build a top roster. They already have so many resources in Korea that it would literally be the easiest thing for them. If it doesn’t work in NA they could just take basically the most famous Korean Valorant player itw and build a team around or with him. They’re just taking a last dip for a chance to be in the NA scene and hopefully the venture doesn’t end up hurting any more players reputations/careers. Doesn’t make sense to switch to kr in a TO tourney break either. There are literally no tourneys or TOs. What opportunities will t1 even have to play if they switched to kr val rn. It is probably guaranteed that there will be big tourneys in NA for now.

I think it's also good to point out for the stability and comfort of autumn and xeta's careers this may end up being the best move long-term if they end up moving to KR, assuming they will be successful in either region.

I can feel xerxia's momentum. They' 80% make playoffs next masters. Hopefully, they don't choke this time.

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I know but I was more impressed by nrg strategically and their depth. They still have high firepower and strategically they seemed sound. You could feel the impact of the new coaching staff and see their gameplan. 100t was just solid but against a guard that was making so many mistakes. Tsm didn't even do that bad whereas it felt very messy from the guard

yeah but we all know that won't happen until it's too late.

1. Optic
2. Nrg
3. C9
   4.LG
   5.100t
   6.EG/XSET
   7.Faze
   8.tsm
   9.ghost/sen
   10.Guard
   not team rankings but just how impressive their performance was.