"The Team with dephh according to me was never built for success" - and that's OK as it's your opinion - however, there were many who still think that it was good enough. Let's not discuss that as it has nothing to do with the matter.

That was one thing.... another thing - pugboy knows very well what I am asking from him, but he's playing dumb... and I was basing my conversation strictly on his BS - not what said or anything regarding your takes, which make me wonder: "why do you bother?"

Oh, just in case, I am also CANADIAN,... please, don't let my SCOTTISH flag to mislead you --> I am not originally from the place/s I reside or will reside in the future.

This is precisely what I was expecting to hear from you --> No responsibility taken for your own claims.

Let me explain to you something... In Valorant or similar, we can still have EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED guesses ... that is, in this game or similar, we don't have straight FACTS, because not all of the information is disclosed or estimated... but we can and should engage in discussing the matter in a way of guesses/takes etc.
And those takes/guesses, however, normally belong to either the EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED groups.

Now, the UNEDUCATED group is simply known as BULLSHIT, which is basically, the takes similar to the one you're promoting here. And they will remain as bullshit until you provide some data on the matter. The EDUCATED group of guesses/takes, on the other hand, have the nature of only partially be true... yet despite not including all of the information in EDUCATED guesses/takes, you can still discuss the matter in close to objective reality of things, which is not a complete reality, or FACT, as there is nothing FACTUAL in any of our takes on here (including my takes), but only close to FACTUAL - near objective reality... and only by presenting partially available information you can accomplish that.

Jeeeee, kiddo, are you really that DUMB that I have to explain on how to critique your shit? What grade are you in?, ffs?

What a DEAD BRAIN, and not even FUN one, I swear 😐

Show your RATIONAL! No one is interested in your "he's good or he's bad" BS. Kiddo, you don't know me... similarly, I don't know you. So the only way is to find out through a discussion in a calm like nature, and with all necessary support available at hand. By support, I mean, support for your claims where needed <-- and I am very surprised that you have no idea what "Calling you out on your BS." means

So please, I am extremely interested in hearing what you have to say about my earlier post to you... try expanding in depth this time.: https://www.vlr.gg/post/2742967/will-sen-fns-work

Or exposed for BS, then, right? ... please receive

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Now, back to the BULLSHIT part of yours -->https://www.vlr.gg/post/2742967/will-sen-fns-work

--> Elaborate on that or GTFO, son... And yes, I am calling you out - there.

Nothing

I am CALLING you OUT on your BULLSHIT - seriously!

You got my attention, son 😘

Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.

I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts

Here, I'll help you to engage:

• You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.

• You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.

• You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?

• You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.

• You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF

• You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!

I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?

I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...

        Name            RD   Rating  ACS    K/D   ADR     KPR    APR    DPR     HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson  5683   1       197.9  1.02  129.8   0.7    0.27   0.68   24.60%
Pujan "FNS"  Mehta    7190   0.86    179    0.9   117.5   0.62   0.26   0.68   20.60%

As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?

YET, your façade pathétique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son

P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.

Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"

Elaborate on your BULLCRAP or GTFO together with your SHITSHOW-CLOWNFEST-like takes!

And yet you have no idea what you are talking about, not even trying to engage in rational discourse - bringing irrelevant BULLSHIT

Yeah, what a bright boi, please keep down fragging me. It is clear to me that you are incapable of doing anything else at this moment .

Cheers🍻

I also wanted to mention that both Less and Alfajer are seemed to be one of most improved players in the game IMHO, which is in itself a crucial statistic for us fans, be it Fnatic or Loud, since we wish our team to succeed, and not just one individual player out of the team.

Also, the OP may safely enter Less's chat and ask him whether he feels himself to be better than the named players. And I am confident Less will present an accurate picture of the situation... every pro player understands (or should, if not already) the styles and success rates of their opponents in the same agent group they play.

Yo pugboy, I posted this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh for people like you back then!

And this regarding your "mechanical skill" argument: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1878804/fun-facts-about-dephh - if you want we can talk about how HS% reflects on one's mechanical skill. But, hopefully, you can see it yourself.
Though, I still see no arguments in your replies, and not that I ever asked from you to define or elaborate on what you are saying, right? - -

• https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion

P.S. YOU NEED TO BASE your nonsense on something reasonable, since dumping rubbish from other shitshows on here doesn't seem convincing or original -seriously.

If only they had Remi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81szj1vpEu8

Aye, excellent inner control ... I went to check out his gaming gear, and was pleasantly surprised to find out that he is using Zowie G-SR mousepad - though has some flaws, it is actually my all-time favourite mousepad - best control pad ever IMHO... and he's also using EC2 with it. It all makes sense now, I guess 🤓

If we're being on point here (I hope so), then I'd say it's all done in a good will... I mean, they're all partners who promote their bread and butter, at the end of the day. And given some of the largest pockets in the area... uhh the market is hot and attractive for them... but in exchange, they will, bring the entertainment to the town ofc, so W/W for everyone...

Also, if everything goes as desired, a wide range of talents might join the league later, etc. After all, why not, right? All in a good cause.

And honestly, even though it gets old to keep saying, Chinese teams have exceeded all expectations, even FPX... yeah yeah, this dude - AAAAY has played exceptionally, even though his team was eliminated early, I hope they don't take it as a failure but as a preparation for their upcoming success - I mean, sure if FPX had a chance they would not refuse to teach Evil Geniuses a lesson or two next time <-- just a little cringe line from me 😉

So, we could be just simply guessing, but I have a feeling the reception at the VCT-24 will be much better than expected - regardless of the scenario <3

Check out Zest per each map - attack/defence HS%... Interesting how he managed to score 50% on both attacks - Lotus/Haven, and 40% on both but defences. It seems like "attack" gives him some kind of AIM boost or smth lol - quite a coincidence.

Aye, that's pretty exceptional... 53% and 55% on the attack - Ascent/Pearl --> 18 kills

Hey Astar... here me out ....

I believe they are carrying out controversial marketing for VCT 2024 in Shanghai. I mean Riot, after all, would never just sit back and watch if that was not the case? - they are total control freaks, if you ask me, and OMG, even beyond that. Also, Potter would not tolerate such nonsense, since she is one of the coaches who worked very/VERY hard to get where she's at, at the moment - HUGE respect to her, btw. So, it doesn't quite look as if for real but played out in favour etc?

I agree with you that it is not the proper approach, however, it may still build some public anticipation for that eSport match revenge, resulting in a large number of views, especially from kids and media, in general which will push the sales eventually. At the end of the day, CS 2 is on the horizon <3

Ngl, he'd fit in here without problem🍿

No... of course not.... that's barely scratching the surface... just some echoes from the past.
The part with the provided data is merely to make it easier to come back and compare, or for whatever reason... but it is essentially copy-paste as well.

I'll also include the remainder of the above table below in case anyone is interested....

Just a wee reminder that the general goal of the comparison is not to determine who is the best/goat etc, but to understand the general dynamics of Jett play styles through specific factors such as FK vs FD --> ACS and ADR, and so on... Or in the least way, to get a better picture. However, some trends may be detected right away, but would need to be tested, and so on.

Lastly, and with all due respect, Wardell doesn't quite match ZmjjKK (as indicated by the data provided) style of Jett in that aspect IMHO. It's not quite reasonable to perceive them as a straightforward equivalence of one and only universally established type of Jett's playstyle, considering the various limitations often imposed by the team to attain the objective. This comparison also holds true for Derke vs. Aspas and cNed.

Name         RD    KDA  ADR  ACS     FK*   FD
Forsaken    2467  1.62  176  280    24.2  16.2
Smth        1603  1.63  168  264    22.2  16.4
BuZz        2664  1.44  150  239    21.7  17.2
Ardiis      1535  1.45  153  232    21.6  16.5
qw1         3576  1.43  152  239    21.6  15.2
Babyay      5130  1.56  160  251    21    14.2
Jamppi      1837  1.41  136  222    20.6  18
sayaplayer  2688  1.45  154  230    20.3  16.2
Life        5533  1.47  160  248    20.2  16
D3ffo       3630  1.46  141  220    19.9  14.5
Russ(TR)    2587  1.46  164  251    19.6  13.8
Sayf        1382  1.69  161  247    19.3  13.4
Tacolilla   3304  1.46  141  217    17.5  13.9
Penny       3703  1.54  154  237    17    13.4
Poiz        3202  1.5   152  236    16.8  13.1
Shahz       2751  1.41  143  226    14.8  11.8

Thanks🍻

BTW, people were asking about Wardell vs... etc or Derke vs. Aspas ... all those could be understood through different implementations of Jett in the game etc.

P.S. Traces back to this, if interested: https://www.vlr.gg/post/125357/your-all-star-valorant-team which is pretty much the discussion that the above table relies on.

Aye, they both play within assign systems to assist their teams' needs. Though, to me, Whzy still appears to be slightly more impactful , but I have nothing against ZmjjKK approach since, in my opinion, there are two or three types of Jett play styles. I mean...

1. Reserved: Aspas, Wardell, and up to TenZ - kind of ... then
2. Moderate: cNed who is balancing (and exceptionally efficient) between reserved/moderate styles with YaY and up to ZmjjKK, who is likewise balancing but more aggressively.
3. Aggressive style of Jett, based on first kill sorting, we find there Derke at the top with Whzy who looks fairly strong in the aggressive range, and he appears to be somewhat more efficient-impactful than ZmjjKK on average, in that Whzy does not die first as frequently as Zmjjkk, but he still manages to pull nice ACS/ADR rates. I don't mention FK here since they all, within aggressive, range very well from ZmjjKK's 24 to Derke's 25 on average, etc.

Name     RD      KDA    ADR  ACS     FK*     FD
Derke   3085    1.48    165  261    25.3    18.6
foxy9   1224    1.42    157  256    24.6    17.5
whzy    2465    1.55    182  288    24.4    15.1
Leaf    1535    1.56    165  258    24.3    19.1
ZmjjKK  3230    1.45    164  267    24.3    18.4
Yay     2862    1.48    155  247    21.6    13.5
keznit  1704    1.5     168  257    20.7    16.6
cNed    4460    1.67    165  262    20.1    12.3
TenZ    3438    1.56    157  250    19.9    14.3
Sayf    1382    1.69    161  247    19.3    13.4
Wardell 3175    1.67    156  245    18.4    9.41
Aspas   2419    1.68    163  248    18.2    11.1
Demon1   604    1.34    156  224    15.5    12

* - FK sorting
P.S. The data is not strictly from this tournament, but mixed with general etc.

Well, Whzy can also play Jett, right?

Name         RD   KDA   ADR  ACS   FK   FD
whzy        2465  1.55  182  288  24.4  15.1
ZmjjKK      3230  1.45  164  267  24.3  18.4

Based on the below data, I cannot find any support to your claim, Less > Alfajer etc.

Moreover, the term "diff" essentially means difference, referring to a kind of difference involving subtraction - a remainder, so to speak. It is commonly used when describing a situation where a certain player demonstrates superior skills compared to another player (the opponent) who is using the same agent in a match or game, which also could be traced in their statistics versus that particular player. While you can still consider minor differences, however, that is not the main point of such expression. And let me help you here...

NO DIFF IS OBSERVED IN THE DATA BELOW, and if there was a small "dif," we could simply brush it of as insignificant, especially because Team Liquid is/was nowhere near as competitive to draw any helpful conclusions <-- yes, they were utter shite!

Undoubtedly, Less is a great and important player, but his significance stems from being a key member of an exceptional team he belongs to. The team's success in winning games should not be attributed to one player outperforming another (the opponent), but rather to their overall statistics as a team. That is, if Loud won Fnatic = team Loud won team Fnatic, and only then we look for any possible discrepancies amongst the players.

Also, we cannot claim that "Less - the best sentinel of the world, not even if Loud wins the Champions! Less, is no doubt amazing talent and one of the finest sentinel players in Valorant, but he is not the best.

I really hope I make sense here... However, if you feel you may argue my point of view, then please feel free to offer your well-organized argument...

or GTFO!

Name      Agent    RD    KDA  ADR  ACS   FK    FD
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Alfajer    KJ     2158  1.65  161  232  10.7  7.36
Suygetsu   KJ     1539  1.46  145  211  8.25  6.43
Less       KJ     1820  1.47  145  210  9.39  7.74
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Less      Viper   1496  1.79  157  231  9.82  7.35
nAts      Viper   1913  1.67  151  226  8.52  8.62

Alfajer   16:19   Less  (Lock//In23 F)
Alfajer    9:7    Less  (C2023 P-offs)
nAts       0:4    Less  (C2023 group) -> TL 2:13 Loud on Haven
suygetsu  10:13   Less  (C2023 group) 

Good one 👍

Will follow...

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I've read it all - in one sitting... and a totally valid point, I must say.

But I'll add that "the baiter becomes the baited --> from their own previously stated phoney baits, will continue endlessly, much like every frog boasts about its swamp being the greatest "shit" of them all until it sees the f-ing ocean. Well, the ocean, in this case, arrives in the form of their team's defeat to teams that had earlier been underestimated, and in a rather rude way, by the same phoney baiter -- vicious cycle, if you ask me.

P.S. It all seems fairly amusing, given that this website receives over 20 million views every month - ofc not all of those go to the forum part of it, but nonetheless.

I feel you missed the point --> as often hypothetical scenarios are mentioned in advance... but you just described some type of VLR phenomenon that actually may be proven right. I just assisted you in reaching such conclusion - that's it ... I didn't down frag you, btw.

Rather great location, ngl 🙃

HolyF... I get what you mean... seems such an important question on VLR LMAO, "Who Does Something Belong To?"

In the meantime in the game....

I'm confused; why is this even a concern? ... Isn't he playing for PRX right now, who are leading in the match?

Personally, I can't be certain on what you said, "Stop lying to yourself, I have more faith in FNC playing a 4v5 all lower bracket and winning than I do genuinely believing Asia will finally win...." because before claiming that you'd need, at least, to compare 4v5 stat... which, by the way, is available out there.

No, he is not and has never been overrated!

Name    RD    KDA   ADR  ACS   FK    FD
Derke   3085  1.48  165  261  25.3  18.6
ZmjjKK  3230  1.45  164  267  24.3  18.4
Smthng  1603  1.63  168  264  22.2  16.4
Aspas   2419  1.68  163  248  18.2  11.1
Demon1  604   1.34  156  224  15.5  12

qRaxs - https://clips.twitch.tv/SourDifferentScallionOneHand-Np02X5FC0aVbBBVn

MarveD ... from 00:20 - https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentCalmWeaselDendiFace-0QAt527fZOsGOkS9

Both look sick asf....

Well, I personally have never blamed anything or anyone for that matter, but thanks for pointing that out, I guess.

Hopefully they will find their way, eventually... since their current decision has failed, they should rethink some of their earlier decisions (as you said about willingness of importing from outside.) There's nothing wrong with making mistakes, but there's also nothing wrong with learning from them. And for whatever reasons ZETA.GC has succeeded with the great Suzu, if the same direction has been used to their regular team but failed... then it's time to reconsider.
Though, It will be interesting to see how they handle everything <3

Ok, follow my thought process... I'll try to be a bit more thorough...

Typical ADHD symptoms stack that can affect one in the game --> fidgeting/impatience, and difficulty of: organizing tasks, remembering, following through, sustaining attention, etc.

Previously observed links - also affect one in the game:

• Stress levels are higher in those who have ADHD.
• ADHD symptoms can be aggravated by stress, producing a vicious cycle.
• The link between stress, ADHD and depression is undeniably there, but differs.

One more thing: depression/stress/anxiety can all exacerbate ADHD symptoms --> further overloading one's mental condition. And, assuming provided info on his SO, the cause of depression could be considered as there imho = he's going through a lot more mental turmoil than someone without ADHD would be experiencing right now. -- that's a lot to handle, ngl.

The catch (which is assumed): It is widely advised to vent about past hardships, in order to lighten up. This is a type of treatment aimed at assisting people with ADHD (or not) in moving on to the next stage of their lives. Hence, that interview could be viewed as part of venting out, and legit responsibility to tell his fans that he is trying to overcome such hardships - he had not quit the game - responsible lad!

P.S. The interview should not be viewed as an attempt to make an excuse, but rather inform his fans on the state of things. I'm simply adding here this very obvious sentence just in case, if that was unclear. <-- who knows, right?

Bedtime stories 😘 ... for children.

whose remainder of so to speak, "FREE" <-- in quotes, right? TIME enabled them to stream indefinitely without even thinking about practising... Oh boi, what could go wrong here, right?

All that SHIT hit the fan rather quickly for them ... --> you Fuck Around and Find Out - FAFO at its best!

P.S. The above is taken from the diary of once Sentinel's fan.

-a*

I respectfully disagree with you. However, your argument nicely reflects on the bulk of baiters.

Just remember to show the SCALE to your shit-alright-good value ranges the next time. It's simply tough to figure out what you mean by those, and since you've previously looked at his match history, you could spare some of us some time by sharing that too.

@Qwertyy, nu c9 in CS is the kind of direction @unsweety was pointing to 😉

Da fcuk you're shitting on Giants, Heretics, BBL, FUT, Karmine Corp, KOI, seeking to have their names changed? 😤

You've not named them, in the first place --> leave that topic out, kid!

Ridiculous! --- seriously, no bueno.

Oh, the chickens are starting to lay again... they've not been laying for a while in their ostensibly obvious foresight, which they've constantly demonstrated incorrectly. They always bring up CS, and today, of course, they're terrified since CS2 is on the horizon.

Do you have nothing better to do than promote your bogus prophecies... You couldn't possible make your headline more clearer than "VAL is going to die"... how do you get to such stupid conclusions?

Check your FORTUNE BALL... it's out of batteries LMAO... Holyyy

TenZ

Hey there <3

That's a very good view. Though, Ardis is still capable player who can go higher, but he need the right team for that, and I don't think NRG is the one for him, at least not from what they've shown so far. Yet, things could change, if they find a way to reshape their approach <-- very ambiguous take

MarveD is spot on, also a crack AIMer and rather wider-dimension player... however s0m isn't bad either but, like you stated, not a huge explorer/lurker - playstyle. Also S0m has this strange aura (or curse?) about him... No, of course, he is a competent player, but he has been quite unfortunate in terms of great success with NRG, in general.

Edit: added "wider- to dimension (inb4: not meant one dimensional but wider) to emphasize larger area of exploration ... Also whoever SAID or mentioned anything about ANcHOR is WRONG. Not again those ANcHOR baits.

Thanks ... Also looks good <3

From group stage: "English and Japanese broadcasts — the viewership for these languages decreased by 35% and 39%, Portuguese viewers grew by 55%"

Now the main question is: How many viewers from all Chinese channels? There should be a lot, no?

Here's the report from EsportCharts themselves (Dexerto's claimed source): https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-champions-2023-valorant

And the main page of the tournament, but you'd need subscription to get all the stats: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-champions-2023-valorant

P.S. Numbers do look alright without Asian viewers

Yeah, absolutely ... it's just I'm going slightly deeper with so many holyF ... like for example, I honestly with all my heart LOVE rodeN/logeN and many many more... and despite unsuccessful BDS's performance, at the time, we haven't seen those or any other players completely recovered -- even before the franchise.

In case of rodeN/logeN, they looked totally like pure fighters/grinders to me, and holyf some of the matches from those days. But then again up until today, we've seen so many decent players that it's is hard to even mention them all here - older+recent talents.

As well as EU, NA had/s quite deep of a pool, but they also have struggled immensely, and had to abandon the idea of pursuing the dream .... and honestly massive SADGE for them too <--- actually really feel for them.

The OP is clearly on the wrong topic here ---> essentially rude and inept I'm not sure why he's being such an idiot by claiming that - even if it's baiting, it's simply a painful topic to goof/flex about.

Very brief but a good one!