they count stage 2 for 2024 only

START hating on chamber

you just described FPX

respect fnatic, they were great in 2023 but eg has improved from tokyo while fnatic hasn’t, still good enough to make top 4. i would still say fnatic was the team of the year in 2023

they beat loud in a close game

eg were fracture merchants at masters, they improved at the next event while playing fracture only once vs DRX

also loud were complete ass in tokyo and got way better at the next event just like EG so that statement really doesn’t mean much

prx spent their time anti strating fnatic and their map pool hasn’t changed at all so i highly doubt they would win champs especially if they’re forced to play pearl and EG and PRX being just as good as FNC on other maps

i never said that it’s a masters, i said that it’s considered as masters in game and it shows 2 masters on fnatic instead of 1

flor fans + people who don’t know the talent on m8

cauanzin is very good*

why did u even go for GX instead

they should make a hall of fame classic for him

isn’t it counted as a masters in game? i saw 2 masters on fnatic classic

should also consider FPX, they are considered as a masters winner

stax is literally a flash initiator main, izu is their flex player if anything. he could just play fade or maybe take inspiration from EG and try sova

soulcas is the reason they won lotus

aspas as a “real duelist” is still better than flor

that one flor fan on his way to claim that flor is better than aspas lmao

aspas is a proven player (and a champs winner too) and has had insane performances at the highest level, flor is a rookie that’s untested and as a result people don’t want to rate her and her team to the point she’s overrated.

uh i think you meant to link your list

cosmetic i guess

yeah he definitely getting nerfed

i wonder which orgs sold the least amount

Mako-goated omen with aim
stax-goated IGL with aim
buzz-goated duelist with aim
zest-goated ini with aim
rb-goated clutch master with aim

they were never winning anything by keeping the same lineup for the third year in a row

respectfully, smoggy is way better on controller and gets his value out of that role than flex. you could slot in someone like s1mon or heybay instead

valyn > zander

i agree with kadavra being top 2. kinda shameless that he wasn’t even mentioned as a HM

m80 deadlock all year 🗿

22%

th and edg top 2, also you mentioned nrg twice lol

kangkang played out of his mind in the finals breaking 4 records

1. EDG/TH (both kept their players and should be good)
2. TH/EDG
3. T1 (showed their strength in offseason)
4. NRG (showed their strength in offseason)
5. GENG (showed their strength in offseason)

There also other stacked teams like G2, SEN, Wolves and Team Vitality that you should watch out for. 2025 will be a great year for all the regions

aaaay is cracked but he really needs to work on util

they ran the same things unless you mean in the off season

there’ll be underdogs making deep runs at international events like last year at shanghai (th, g2) and champs (edg, sen, lev) 100%

and the worst thing to have happened to havoc simultaneously last year 😭

shouldn’t have to be a hot take, heat is so good

copenhagen is the most underrated event

yes

the geng players were streaming and the chinese fanbase started to acknowledge how good they were and they’ve attracted more fans from that which makes me happy since they had all odds against them

they are OT choke gods and the only one they won was vs GENG (16-14 map 1) They lost OTs to FUT (12-14 map 2), TH Shanghai (15-17 map 3) and TH again at champs (12-14 map 1 and 13-15 map 3)

so pretty much yeah that’s what most likely will happen

explain

being better than everyone at champs except for edg is fluking now?

they definitely can, maybe not bangkok but toronto and paris is likely

3 weeks since moose got benched, 2 weeks since net got added

can’t believe it’s been a month since DFM won bangkok

me but with geng vs fpx and manifesting fpx make it past the group stage this year cause their losses were unfortunate in shanghai especially vs TH, if they got lev instead then easy playoffs

alfa said that he thinks less is the only player on par with him in the sentinel role

yep, yoru works fine on maps like haven abyss and pearl so teams like TH and FNC should be good during kickoff

what’s your ideal polish team?