they had to shuffle roster moves and changed coaches, yoru being meta single-handedly might have fked them over

they’re all also just very individualistic and don’t know what to do

roster instability + coaching staff

opening match nerves + edg are good on haven tbf

autumn effect

chinese teams had some semblance of macro understanding in 2024

s1mons breach util was key but bringin him back is not going to solve this mess under autumn

they’re playing worse than EDG 2023 😭

be scared of G2

he’s on chamber

nrg is safe gg

bro probably got pissed off at a mayadotexe bait tweet

They’ll pull a Drx at bangkok

TL can’t rematch T1

They’ll pull a T1 in bangkok dw

forgot free1ng, trexx, brawk and jinggg

1.06

G2 is literally just valyn leaf and friends

aspas is shit ahh take

BBL forfeited and gave their spot to FNC

True

we need one off meta team going on a run so i am with you

will be the same result sadly

they won at least

invy is better than him on initiator, patmen shines more as a flex player

overall i’d take invy

lohan and yaotzin deserve the credit too

should we take away a slot from EMEA then? always one team making deep runs while the others either only get top 6 or occasionally shit the bed like in toronto

nrg beat them when it mattered most, twice

mibr is guaranteed to get grouped at london because aspas hates the 2nd event of the year so i will go with NRG

still wouldn’t fix them, edg are just the best at double initiator

similar to how prx sucked in tejo meta, this meta isn’t good for edg

give me aspas 80 kills or i retire

Not at all

true but they closed it out at least

mibr wishes they were this good, sadly they need aspas to drop 80 kills every game which is not a reliable way to win trophies

https://www.vlr.gg/596427/mibr-vs-nrg-vct-2026-americas-kickoff-lbf/?game=244868

lost to brawk going 13/2 without odin btw

tl faced drx twice at champs

recency bias

bipo and everyone else does their job to set marteen up heavily

DRX lost flashback so i expected them to struggle in kickoff since they don’t have a dedicated yoru player

GENG… hope they get better

eye test

if you give them NRG all of a sudden they got their shit together

nah the 1-1 teams can face each other

they’re facing liquid lol

t1 is reserved for g2

but the point is that korean teams can’t win without korean casters (had their worst performance at champions seoul btw)

https://www.vlr.gg/449011/g2-esports-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-gf

no bro they clearly cheated by listening to the thai casters to win bangkok 🤦

no way meteor my multilingual goat

i mean if he’s able to win a trophy off the chinese and thai casters..

are you telling me that t1 players know thai?

he’s not playing particularly terrible though his impact is still felt

not so sure about that second part

weekdays

they would be fine against G2 ngl

sadly smeag and especially jawgemo is not the strongest duelist duo

Cope, M8 outclassed TL

It’s okay they’ll be back