ok we can disagree on mistic but not emea individuals being inconsistent,that is a fact you can see if you have 2 eyes and a brain,it was literally derke and alfa vs 5 today and even they were whiffing,liquid are all inconsistent af screaM nowhere near the "super star" of the team anymore his aim is only declining ,i feel like fpx and m3c are actually the only teams that actually have super solid individuals in emea

he is literally insane when hes feeling it,the problem is inconsistency like with all emea players but with him its just extra bad,that is emeas biggest weakness the individuals are just so shit compared to other regions not because they cant aim but because it looks like they have such a hard time getting in to their comfort zone

yes? i said with the right guiding and igling

derke and alfajer are the only promising players in that lineup and maybe mistic with the right guiding and igling,i actually think magnum was way better than enzo or even braveaf

yeah and next tournament its gonna be different again and you will be laughed at,this game is just random,i remember some people were actually thinking emea was done because of reykjavik,and NA completely flopped at champs too but still came back

that was 4 years ago,also 3 months where they didnt get higher than 5-8th place

yeah because valorant and cs are such different games valorant has abilities instead of nades and more simple mechanics thats it

but its mostly the same cs pros or players who didnt play at pro level yet now doing it in valorant at a much higher level

why am i not seeing those same threads,you must be on a different forum

im sorry but fns being on a top 5 team disproves ur entire point

but how does that make the top pros better in valorant than they were in cs individually

and i wonder what does this have to do with my point,did the fact valorant supports them make them way better individuals,if you cant even get over 1kd in asia like rb did you are simply not good

there is literally no deep talent pool in emea because cs sucks up all the real good players or those with a lot of ambition because they have no reason to switch ,there is tons of potential insane players but they all grind cs only the bottom of the skill pool overall is switching to val expect those who left because of restrictions like jamppi,sayf,leo etc,in a lot of regions a lot more good players in cs switched compared to eu because of how dead their scene was

yes i also forgot the fact we have fucking vloggers,uk cs players and former all aim no brainers as igls in tier 1 teams

no but thats where the difference in mental and strategy comes in,on paper there is such a low gap in individual skill many teams just win because of their mental and momentum in that game thats why theres so many upsets

thats my point lol,valorant fundamentals like shooting,movement,gameplay overall etc is just simplified from cs to make val more casual since they know to be on par with cs they need to take advantage of the fact cs in not very casual friendly and thats why valorant is so popular between all these e girls and next level casual gamers,its ofcourse personal some people might suck at val while being good at cs like floppy but the majority are def better at val than cs

lmao no one in their right mind thinks eu is in par with them but better than NA for sure

i would def say emea is relevant in lol eu has the potential to beat china and korea teams but both are still miles ahead in mentality and skill level witch is why eu has choked so many chances to win lans,actually now that i think about it it is pretty similar to drx lmao

i mean eu has more international trophys than NA in both r6 and rl,apex legends eu sucks at expect russia thats NA game for sure

so the fact that riot invests in other regions makes those same players who couldnt manage over 1.0 kd against top 50 teams in cs tier 1 in valorant,this argument makes no sense,a lot of these tier 1 pros who do amazingly in val individually were just simply not good players in cs there was nothing limiting xeta for example when he was playing in tyloo and they were playing a lot vs eu and he was a complete bot https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/11188/xeta?startDate=2020-02-24&endDate=2020-04-03&teamId=4863

yeah i think this event proved it,this is surely the nail in the coffin for emea

agree,if fnatic has no derke carry they cant actually win with bot mistic and boaster,enzo also so unreliable

no derke carry no win,also enzo and mistic are horrible and inconsistent

noooo does it actually,that would be horrible

wdym i dont really understand what ur trying to say mind explaining

shut up

he always had sick mechanics he has just been on a slump for a while

he isnt diffing will stfu clown🥺 nobody can diff my idol w0ll🥺🥺

poised was like 22 when he was "allegedly" fixing,but i agree not banned for life but if they were fixing its literally a crime they need to get some kind of punishment,also im not sure where you got they were blackmailed

throwing a match for money

why would they do that lmao

why,its literally illegal and they have not got any consequence from it yet,just getting banned from cs would be even more stupid

but they would probably do it or atleast a suspension they are already working with esic etc

so if according to val frogs cs is dead now and long before valo when was it alive lmao

yeah they were looking too shaky yesterday,thankfully they have 3 days now if they can atleast play 30% better i think they have a chance vs edg but they really need to wake up

kinda crazy how many people here didn't even know about this lol

whaaaaaaat this is crazy man WTF

well scream igl is looking even worse

well scream is known as one of the most one dimensional pros,he was never a smart player he only knew how to aim thats his biggest downside,idk why tf they put their best player who already has struggles being a versatile player to igl 0 iq move,maybe in valorant he is considered a "wise" player but in reality he isnt atleast in cs it feels so dumb hearing scream is the igl

no igl and nerves probably,they looked so lost against lev,it looked like nervousness to me

good analysis, I respect ur opinion

liquid just looked lost and not confident at all,so many stupid peeks and duels,no discipline etc while lev played insane and were in control all the time

"AfghanOmegalulistani" holy fuck i think i got a brain aneurism from the amount of cringe,you arent doing crindia a favor with these cringe baits tbh,have some self awareness how do you just post that and think "lol that will show him ill ad a twitch emote in the countrys name"

indian education 😂

hes right,btw why does cringdia produce so many baiters ive always wondered

idk in my opinion xset is not a good team,quite shit honestly,why do you think they are not shit

liquid played like shit tho and they still made it close

leviatan def has a big chance if they play well,we will see,as long as liquid doesnt play like bots they are still the better team imo

they literally pracced with him before champs,it doesnt make a huge hes a 6th man not a full time sub

lol smoggy literally better than him by far