And ? There`s 16 teams, isnt like if Astralis doesnt go 3-0 i`ll have no chances of score the others 5 picks... u just throw a pick in the trash, pain will sure not go 3-0.

here: https://imgur.com/a/kfb4kjz

lmfao pain 3-0 , i`m brazilian but not delusional

Navi will choke as always.

Astralis 5th major incoming.

Hltv.. Literally the best coverage site of any esport out there.

The lack of a replay system surely helps to the subtle cheaters that isn't as obvious as Spinbot/wallhackers/Rage aimbot goes freely and undetected.

But as far as the ones called "rage cheaters" (the ones I said before), Valorant is light years ahead of CS.

Of course, a recent and improved engine and a intrusive AC surely helps.

Well, the next tournament for most teams it's only in 5 months. I expect much more orgs dropping their teams...

If u are not in Champions there'd nothing to u play until next year VCT.

Viewship records will be break only if Sentinels made the finals against a Turkish or Japanese team.

Lmfao not even close. 100-150k top.

Washed CS:GO pros *

Lmfao, put anyplay Valorant play to grind FPL for six months and put them to play tier 1 CS and they will not kill a thing.

Valorant is mechanically easier than CS, the players just need to learn the abilities, that is basically point and click.

Lmfao destroyed the guy

Yes, Valve is updating their game more frequently, but not enough, it has a lot of bugs (like the water bug, fixed yesterday and it was a problem for 5 years) that they don't fix, they don't advertise the game or talk with the pro scene to see what can be improved.

There's little to no communication with the community. CS will not die, this game is a masterpiece, but it's esport scene is in great danger, the today's system isn't profitable.

They could add teams agents, gloves, weapons idk, and do something to all teams get some money through the game, not only the ones they make to the major.

I see a bunch of people wanting to others FPS games die to Valorant gain popularity and become the top FPS.

What a stupid way of thinking, a health esport world is made of a lot of titles, I hope that we never face a day with just RIOT managing the biggest eSports.

We need CS, OW, R6 and others games to make a heath competition and bring inovation.

Valorant may become the biggest FPS because R6/OW already failed and lost the window to be top 1 and Valve doesn't look too interested in the esport scene of CS, so rn Riot is the only company pumping money and effort in making their game the bigger one.

CS GO is way more fun to watch than Valorant. We can all remember a crazy clutch, play from CS, Valorant due the abilities make all of it so repetitive (like Jett aces/clutches) , happen so often that isn't something that is remarkable.

That's why when a player do something crazy in a pro match in CS u see the play in LiveStreamFail and others subreddits with high up votes while Valorant plays are restrict to the game respective subreddits.

Nivera was an one time situation because he was fcked by Valve (no 6 man roster) and wanted to play with his brother. He was benched for more than six months.

It was a easy choice to him, even more when he had a guaranteed spot at a team that can make Champions in less than 2 months.

No tier 1 CS players will go to Valorant if they have a stable team.

May in the end of their career, the logic thing to do is start at CS and if thing don't work u have Valorant as a second chance. The contrary isn't possible, if u fail at Valorant then u will fail at CS.

LOL is more popular than Dota because is easier and can run in any potato PC.

Dota is essencialy a better game than LOL.

As almost everything in this world, the most popular things aren't usually the better ones.

Well please tell me how saying CS is dead is saying something good about Valorant?

Dead to him because he is washed and will never find any decent team anymore.

But the regional leagues are respected and there's a sentiment of importance to won them. No one cares about the regional tournament of Val, only Masters and Champions is taken seriously.

Riot will franchise the game in the near future, maybe not next year but certainly in 2023.

There's no incentive to third parties enter the Valorant scene due this. So RIOT should keep with the VCT format but with more important tournaments per year and a new circuit to tier 2/3 scenes.

Well, this rely in the main goal of Valve x RIOT

Valve doesn't want to be an esport company, they release their game, make money from it, they fund only one tournament per year just to make the game appear on the news to bring new players then bring more money. Valve is like 95% of the game industry.

Riot want to build a esport, they support it, they advertise it, they build their games towards it. Their main focus its to build an community towards their games.

That's why there's not a single company that comes close to esport management and that's why LOL is the biggest esport/game out there. Valorant certainly will follow the same path.

Too bad because I would not like so see the esport world dominated by just one company, would like to see companys like Blizzard, Microsoft, Valve itself and others building an esport ecosystem as strong as the RIOT one...

Why? CS has many tournaments and yet gets good numbers, especially at the majors.

It's the obvious path, it's RIOT.

Looks like that one of the things u have to do to get a spot on Valorant upcoming league is having a female Valorant roster and I bet that I will need to have a academy team too.

Bro, CS > Valorant in my heart forever, but holy shit, RIOT is fucking awesome, they are in another level when supporting and building an esport game. Look this video.. U will never see this in any other game... And Valorant will have it too for sure, and due the nature of the game (agents and abilities) it can be way more impressive too.

Call 911. Someone murdered English.

The developer is Amazon Game Studios...

Valorant had RIOT League sucess behind it to generate hype towards their new game, who is prime gaming in the game world ?

New world > Valorant/CS GO.

End of discussion.

Actually just today there was a topic in hltv saying Valorant > CS GO

Why can't gain more players lol?

Bro, it's the eleven operation of history of CS GO, isn't because of Valorant lol.

CS was hit hard by Covid, no Lans tournaments, no Major, this is coming back just now, it had the release of the operation, next month will have the result of the 1m case contest, the major view pass, the return of Lans events with the major itself and Blast Finals, there's a new meta in the game with Nade drop.. Things are getting back to normal, the playbase is growing in the last two months.

There's space for both games thrive together... Valorant may become bigger because when talking about eSports management, RIOT is years light ahead of Valve.

CS most stable esport, u have the academy league, then u go to tier 3, then tier 2, then tier 1, win important tournaments, major, become washed and go to retirement home: Valorant, which provide an overtime of 2-3 years for their already finished career.

Tell me which game provides this stable career?

If u start at Valorant, u go through the ties, win some major tournaments and when u become washed u go to where? There's not a easier game, so u must go to content creator and its end of road.

Bro. Let's put the games itself in hold, but can u agree to me that the path to Valorant TOP rn is way easier than the CS one?

CS u have teams that are playing together for years, u have a pool of players with high skill, players like S1mple and ZyWoo, and the open format makes way more difficult to reach top level.

In the other hands, Valorant teams are signing ex CS go pros just because they were CS go pros, the path to become the TOP is way easier (just need to win the challengers series and u are in the biggest tournament of Valorant), the teams are not so consistent and players are still learning the game..

Nivera could stay in CS and be a doubt if it would find any success soon or go to Valorant and become a top contender and play just only one tournament to have the chance to get at Valorant Champions.

Easy choice for him.

Certainly will, just need to give co-stream rights to half of twitch.

What would you choose: stay in the harder game or go to the easier one and find quickly success?

Valorant doesn't have the skill ceiling to allow that difference. Maybe in tactical thinking, mechanically speaking we will not see much difference from future stars than the ones we have today.

There's not any site in any eSports that comes close to HLTV. This is a fact.

ET fire is like Brazil's O plano, two teams with high expectations, high fan base but poor results.

Such a shame, the scene would only benefit of these two teams making tier one, huge fan base.

Easier game what were u expecting?

The complete disrespect towards CS legends by some Valorant kids.

Respect the God's from the game which Valorant took inspiration and become what it is today.

Any player that got to the top on CS already have a higher chance than any other players from any other game to become TOP at Valorant.

Whenever u like or not, CS is way more difficult when mechanically speaking, so it the guy already proved himself in CS, certainly the possibilite of him become equally good in Valorant is huge.

I'm talking with a 12 year old kid omg

Tell me what canada have accomplished in any major esport ever ?

Lol, it`s the same shit as CS, so if CS doesn`t take skill neither Valorant. If u say the contrary them u just stop to being delusional to being a baiter...

And i just don`t know why i keep discussing this omg, bye

i`m brazilian and my english speaking is bad.

And we`ll keep discussing and not finding a consensus, so it`s waste of time.

Just a question, Valorant is skill based ?

Relax bro, this game will be forgot in one year or more, there`s others exciting games coming as the new HALO and COD (this is bad but NA loves it).

Bro, how u can`t predict people ? Do you never heard of probability and statistic ?

And tell me how two people can be exactly equal in skill ? It`s impossible, there a thousand variables, no one is equally good at shooting, at peeking, at the movement, at the utility usage, at the mind games etc... even if the difference is small, there`s one.

That part was the most braindead one: "Adaptation isnt a thing too, the enemy team can switch their gamestyle and second" do you know what this is ? ADAPTATION, lol, just because is the enemy team doing doesn`t change what it is.

No one is equal in skill to another person, so ur point is invalid. Everyone has some strengths and weakness even when playing at same level.

When two teams of (close) same level play each other, the winning team are the one who shot better, who use utility better, who predict what their enemy can do better, the team that adapt for the enemy team better.

Again, pick soccer and put Real Madrid vs Barcelona both on their prime, one team will score a goal only when the other team make a mistake right? So the team that make less mistakes win, and which team is the one that make less mistakes? The most skilled one.

I'll not keep this discussion because this is clearly I bait and I'm really is losing time here.

Have a good day.