Vortexy
Flag: South Korea
Registered: April 18, 2021
Last post: November 14, 2024 at 6:39 PM
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'no slots' since they 'always deliver'? that doesn't make sense

posted about 2 years ago

pretty incorrect. Korea's best run was as team not even by Drx (or ex Vision Strikers). Drx are constantly challenged and lose bo3s to multiple teams domestically. Loud has been completely unchallenged. They're the first Brazil team to be able to be competitive internationally. They are the definition of a one team region

posted about 2 years ago

I like how you simply say "misinformed" when you don't have a logical response

posted about 2 years ago

"I don't even need to talk about engagement, just seeing interaction on twitter and discord is one of the biggest or if not the biggest in the world."
Japan? Then yes you're correct, Crazy Raccoon and Zeta had the most retweet/comment/engagement responses than any other team. Sen was third or something I believe.

I like how when you have no more logic left, you'll start ranting off emotions

posted about 2 years ago

yeah but they choked a few crucial rounds against optic in a really close series, but then played pretty poorly against zeta

posted about 2 years ago

you can look simply look at the number of orgs invested, nobody is hiding those facts
amount of viewers is right there as well, go to viewer counters like esportcharts and Japan has the most viewers, Brazil falls behind Jp, Na, and Eu for viewership.

posted about 2 years ago

W article

posted about 2 years ago

NA and EU both have more viewers. Japan had more viewers than either NA or EU. Go back to threads like a week or so ago, people compiled a lot of viewership data.

posted about 2 years ago

tldr: Brazil is one team region who doesn't need more than 1 spot currently, they're getting more slots and opportunity than regions with just as much success with more viewership and investment

posted about 2 years ago

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posted about 2 years ago

what L? I still stand by my notion that Brazil doesn't need more than 1 slot. The rest of the region is still far behind and regions like japan with just as competitive teams and more viewership get much less oportunity

posted about 2 years ago

uh, cause they haven't faced each other? I'll bet my life savings drx will beat them tho in a bo3 or 5

posted about 2 years ago

Brazil has gotten significantly more representatives and opportunity than japan. They should have accomplished way more then bombing out of groups every time.

"You're just spitting lies because you can't accept that you talked a lot of shit days ago."
lol? link it please
it's ok tho, totally forget about Brazilians like trembolona, singling me out is the most logical thing to do am I right?

posted about 2 years ago

heh? I don't know what's this got to do with Brazil needing to get more than 1 spot

posted about 2 years ago

they've always gotten 2, this is the first time they only have one, but then they get an lcq with the free pass out of groups advantage that's swept by Brazil every time. Latam teams have never come close to winning it ever.

posted about 2 years ago

internationally, Brazil has been extremely weak. They're weak right now too with the exception of Loud who are the uncontested leaders there. Teams from Korea and Japan rn have had more overall success, even including Loud's good run rn.

posted about 2 years ago

nah Korean teams stomped on teams like Nip

posted about 2 years ago

L list

posted about 2 years ago

Since they're getting an unproportionate amount of opportunity compared to regions like Japan. Japan has been historically the stronger region over Brazil. Yet they've gotten significantly fewer spots. Now, both have competitive teams going far. Why should Brazil get more opportunity than Japan when Japan has just as competitive teams and more viewership and investment?

(Also Nip game vs Zeta was close, but Nip played some of the best valorant I have seen them play there, but it still wasn't enough. Both teams got crushed by Drx, who barely lost to optic, who then lost to Zeta in a rematch. Teams are close, but Brazil teams have just been far too consistent in their failure of advancing out of groups besides the new Loud which was completely unchallenged domestically.)

also liked how you edited your comment after I responded

posted about 2 years ago

Rn, every Brazilian team besides Loud is significantly behind as evident by their performance

posted about 2 years ago

"Viewership can only carry them so far" - plenty of Brazilians were using the viewership logic to justify why they should get more spots I recall

"They are starting to get results now, but so is Brazil. The -slot thing is dumb"

If they're both getting results (AND Japan has more viewership) why should Brazil get more opportunity then?

posted about 2 years ago

at international events
BR - 2 representatives, then 2, then 3, then 2 again, like I said before a Latam + Br LCQ is literally free Brazil slots

and what shit did I say lol. Brazil has been very poor internationally. Only Loud rn are competitive. All the other Brazilian teams are significantly far behind. None of them have been able to challenge Loud domestically either. I think they only need 1 slot rn. Why does Japan with less viewership, more past successes, and just as competitive teams rn, have less slots and opportunity? You can disagree that's fine, but it's not like I'm spitting random things out without any logic or evidence.

posted about 2 years ago

W*

posted about 2 years ago

this kids probably using a translator kekw the way you wrote it sounds so unnatural

posted about 2 years ago

Kr - almost no investment, viewership, or passion for esports (yet still has more overall success at international events)
Br - super enthusiastic fan base with huge passion for esports (even with Loud rn, still has had less international success)

posted about 2 years ago

nah add more for Brazil, all Brazilian teams besides Loud are free farming

posted about 2 years ago

didn't age at all

my point still stands that Brazil only needs 1 spot as of now

posted about 2 years ago

lmfao account literally made today with 2 posts

1: this one
2: ban vortexy

posted about 2 years ago

Drx was even closer to beating teams like Optic. (not "far" superior, but they were definitely the better side. Zeta looked like they had better strats, coordination, and mental focus to bring the game back and win it, shows their ability to adapt unlike Brazilian teams who rely mostly on pure aim and mechanical skill tho Loud seems to be the exception, they have more rehearsed utility usage than other Brazilian teams.)

posted about 2 years ago

region is worse? Korea has had more international success than Brazil despite Brazil having so much more representation all of last year as well. Loud is currently the only team from Brazil who can internationally compete. The rest of Brazil is so far behind. Loud is unchallenged in Brazil. Drx is. They consistently drop bo3's and even get swept 2-0'd. I don't think Loud has ever lost yet.

Japan has just as competitive teams and a better track record than Brazil at international events, combined with more viewership and investment. Why should they get less spots than Brazil?

and wdym by I have no place to speak? depending on your background you're not allowed to say things someone else can?

posted about 2 years ago

kekw, go tell that to trembolona

posted about 2 years ago

I'm not saying the amount of rounds are the determining factor, but it's a good indicator to show how close all the teams are.

posted about 2 years ago

oh no Zeta is only in the lower finals?? how could they shame on them

"barely won" lol Zeta has convincingly won all their wins
Loud went -4 rounds against optic, I think that's more "barely"

posted about 2 years ago

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posted about 2 years ago

popular*

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posted about 2 years ago

idk if you even know the definition of dispute, doesn't work well in this context

Brazilian's winning a Latam + Br Lcq is just free wins for Brazil, nobody from Latam has even come close to winning the LCQ. Koreans competed well in apac Lcq (which has only happened once unlike the SA Lcq which happens more frequently along with coming with benefits like skipping groups), earning many more wins than losses, it's just significantly harder for such a smaller populated nation to compete against countries with more investment and viewership with 15x more population size (this doesn't even include the 1.4 billion from India since they don't have much passion either). Brazil 2nd seed teams wouldn't stand a chance in an apac lcq where the best apac teams aren't even competing.

posted about 2 years ago

common trembolonaRage L

posted about 2 years ago

Quite true, Brazil got 2 guaranteed spots at each event all of last year despite being the least performing region. This doesn't include times where they had 3 representatives thanks to winning those free LCQ spots with no competition. Now they're getting another 2 representatives again despite having only one competitive team. Why should regions like Kr with more overall international successes, or regions like Jp with more viewership and investment and just as competitive teams have less spots?

posted about 2 years ago

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posted about 2 years ago

<3

posted about 2 years ago

it is, it just keeps proving how Brazil is a one team region and they don't need more than 1 until the rest of the competition improves

posted about 2 years ago

Drx won more rounds than Optic. Optic won more rounds than Loud. The top 6 teams representing 6 different regions are all neck and neck. Anyone has the potential to beat or lose to each other. Yet Brazil has gotten the privilege of getting 6 guaranteed spots alone just last year without accomplishing anything, not even including the Lcq's which basically gives them guaranteed spots. They had another 2 representatives again this tourney, despite regions like Korea who have had more international success, or regions like Japan with more viewership and investment and just as competitive teams only get 1 slot.

posted about 2 years ago

ikr it is, I wonder if mods can delete this thread, I'm getting so many notifications

posted about 2 years ago

a small region with minimal investment and no support and passion for fps games

Drx won more rounds than optic. Optic won more rounds against loud. The top 6 teams are all neck and neck and can win and lose against one other. Chad drx fans are happy enough to have a competitive team despite the little support the region has.

posted about 2 years ago

Every team wins and loses. True Drx fans will support their team and be happy with how far they went even though there is so little interest and support for fps games in their region.

posted about 2 years ago

take an L with this ratio

posted about 2 years ago

L

posted about 2 years ago

They don’t have an insane passion for Valorant unlike Na, Eu, and more than all others, Brazilians who take things way too far and act like it’s life or death.

Also China can’t even participate in international Valorant events kekw why did you even mention them?

posted about 2 years ago

This one team narrative is getting old and isn’t even historically supported. Korea’s best run has been by a team that wasn’t even drx. Drx are consistently challenged within Korea and have lost plenty of bo3’s to other Kr teams. Japan has been dominated by Crazy Racoon all of last year, this is their japan’s first representation that’s not them.

posted about 2 years ago
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