Yay gets way more hate
Cned don’t get talked about much neither hate or praise

Saadhak I think
I do think that new loud has better players than nrg but optic and old loud had similar caliber of players
I think fns when he is feeling it can take over completely but saadhak is more consistent
High peaks < consistency

Hot take but I think kd is more indicative of good players over ACS/ADR or even rating
Kd can be boosted by baiting or eco frags/exits, but if u look at winning teams in tournaments, the winning team usually have the highest KDs
At the end of the day it’s a shooter game and killing someone and not dying is more important than anything

Tbf ascend was always really good against eu teams but weak against na or sa teams. For the most part they played eu in later stages of the tournament, plus they actually had a winning record against gambit. It was a good matchup for them even tho they weren’t the better team.

Imo soulcas has better aim but asuna is the better player. Asuna, tenz, soulcas, are all the same, fantastic players who can’t preform in pro because of some kind of discipline or confidence problem.

I hope less takes his time before igling bro is insane rn hopefully he only IGLs once he becomes washed 😂

Did u even read the post? I’m talking about IGLs I think have peaked and need to retire. Why would boaster be on that list when he is just hitting his prime

Hopefully, I really wish if fns taught victor or crashies how to igl, cuz crashies is so vocal and calm, and victor use to be the attack side midrounder on optic

I don’t mean goat, just respected IGLs who are famous for their midrounding, or IGLs whose impact can be visibly noticed

This might be a braindead take but I feel like the “goat” igls, other than saadhak, are losing their touch. It feels like FNS, angel, and stax specifically have hit their peaks. I think they need to train someone else to igl instead of them and coach instead. Their igling no longer gaps other IGLs like boostio, davaii, etc and their fragging (not stax) is a massive bottleneck.

Bros lost the plot

Yay
Demon was good in Tokyo but insane in champs
Tenz was insane in Reykjavik, quite good in Berlin, mediocre in champs
Yay was insane in Berlin, insane in Reykjavik , good in Copenhagen, insane in champs
Consistency > peaks

Did he actually confirm leaving nrg alongside S0m or is it just speculation?

If EG win champs they better buy mibr a nice dinner and a cut of their champs winnings 😂😂😂😂
100t in shambles

How are DRX and prx over fpx who actually won a tourney?

So Tokyo never happened right?

The tourney where loud chilled and anti strayed while EG went thru groups and still 2-0ed loud?

Acting like half the Emea users weren’t hating on fnatic before lock-in…..

Fnc are the best team of 2023, but definitely not the best team in the world right now

Such a good suppprt player
Even when he isn’t fragging the guy has 20+ assists and gets impact frags
He is what sen fans thought zombs is after Reykjavik

Population has nothing to do with player population and org support/e sports infrastructure
Elsewise apac should be winning everything

This guy might low key be louds best player?
Slightly more consistent then less and Aspas
Unbelievable tourney from him, and he’s still underrated

Regardless who wins will be a good match
Unlucky that EG lost an all Americas final would have been crazy, but apac also deserves a trophy

Not superstitious but if sen shit the bed in 2024 they might actually be cursed

How tf did they ruin tenz, dapr, sick, zellsis, Zekken, marved, sacy, and pancada

Surely they win something with this caliber of players?

This is some bullshit
How’s crashies getting so much hype when my guy choked at Tokyo and champions?
Vic was hardly worse in Americas league and way better in Tokyo and champs
Crashies gets so much hype only to be mediocre asf in intl events

Lukewarm take but Vic and crashies are going to be very mid without fns…they never had the best firepower anyways it was their synergy and experience that made them good, without fns there are better replacements

Agreed
Fns makes optic optic

No hate but bro doing a lil too much no? Always taking after the match
Once in a while is fine but always taking shit after matches feels a bit forced

Forsaken

Bro so underrated no? He’s always had stellar utility and relatively consistent fragging but he’s stepped up so much this tourney. Definitely deserves his flowers.

What did she do

I still believed that Leo was the best player itw after Tokyo, but tbf after champs Alfa might be able to overtake. The one thing is that every single time that fnc actually struggle in a match (vs Loud in GF, vs EG in UBF) Leo is the guy that pops off when Derke chronicle and Alfa are quieter.

How are Shao and Leo not on here

Vic and leaf have opped maybe 5 maps their whole career.

The problem is that nrg if they fix their issues could be a good team again, like they were at Tokyo, but they will never be a championship contender with teams like prx and fnatic without dropping Ardiis or making additional changes

Maybe I’m dumb, but it feels like you just think victor isn’t flashy enough. Yay will be the star player in this roster and the player whose trading victor and whoever is entrying. Vic just needs to be good with duelists and able to entry. Those players you mentioned are both duelists and the star of their team, but we have seen teams (navi/fpx), DRX, etc where the star player isn’t the entry duelist and they are still successful.

Why is he not an explosive duelist? Wdym by explosive? He entries and plays well on raze and Jett. What more do you want? Kang kang, Jinggg, etc are more flashy but essentially they all entry and play duelists, just like victor.

Alfajer 1.31 rating in Tokyo enough said

Alfajer needs to be number 1 in terms of peaks
Shao and yay are insane but they are insane for consistency over peaks imo
Tenz needs to be on this list if nats’s Berlin peak is considered relevant

Completely aside but yay was insane in Berlin 2021 crazy peak imo

Yay’s mentality (always positive + hungry for improvement) is what made him so good
His confidence is destroyed rn
He will take some time but he’ll be back I think

Waffle
Aspas = Derke
Less =< Alfajer (lock-in means jackshit Alfajer hit his prime in EUROPE league and Tokyo and champs 23)
Tuyz << boaster (boaster frags way better even while igling)
Leo >> cauanzin
Chronicle >> saadhak
Boaster igl > saadhak (bro won two events with different metas and called vs different teams while saadhak’s igling has declined slightly)

Why not victor full time Jett and raze while yay on sentinels including chamber? They have 6 months in off season to let yay learn kj and cypher.

Can’t believe that this bait gonna work 🙄 well played

Pass what ur smoking to the nrg fans, they need jt

Aspas, less, saadhak, khalil, Cauanzin + CHET ez

Cauanzin’s util is clean and he’s been improving. Bro quite top5 best init but definitely top 5 most underrated.

Ardis ain’t baiting on Jett brotha. Cuz if he is whose entrying? He entries on haven and split for sure. Plus no one saying that marved and yay are bad, just that marved isn’t somehow massively better than S0m just for nostalgia’s sake.

THIS hundred percent. Which is why victor was underrated despite being a mid fragger and why he frags now they aren’t on his team. He had to run and die so yay could hold angles and marved could lurk.

Your telling me cloud trexx and Ethan are all better than davaii whose also igling?

Optic core literally mentioned that yay and marved are the biggest baiters on the team. Marved lurked early in 2022, but by the end he was trading most of the time.

I think moving victor fully to duelist and letting yay pick up killjoy/chamber/cypher would be perfect. Victor isn’t an insane fragged but he always entries and is selfless plus he has good movement. Sentinels should suit yay perfectly. NRG’s problem isn’t necessarily fire power, it inconsistently. Vic and crashies can be insane fraggers, and even Ardis can, but everyone other than S0m is wildly inconsistent. Pair that with the walking orb that is FNS, they need consistent, not explosive players