Yeah 2022 really puts less ahead
Overall across 2023, I could see why Alfajer might be better, but since he didn’t play sentinel in 022, less wins automatically

Marved is not better than mako
Mako cleared him on 2022 other than Reykjavik with the worse team by far, marved didn’t even really play in 2023, and they were roughly even in 2021

I get wdym, but him not making a lan in 2022 really hurts him overall
I do think he is closest to being the goat flex tho

Fns cannot be the best igl in 2021 without winning a single lan, missing Reykjavik and getting grouped at champions

I got no clue for flex tbh, they are by nature inconsistent: problem is chronicle didn’t make Lan in 2022 and was an init in 2021, forsaken didn’t do anything of note in 021, and was a duelist in 022

Give me the best duelist, best controller, best sentinel, and best initiator, best flex, and best IGL of all time

Remember most important stat is
Consistency, being top 3 for 3 years > best for one year

Duelist: Aspas (N/A 2021, Top 2-3 2022, Top 1 2023)
Controller: Mako (top 3 top 2021, Top 1-2 2022, Top 1 2023)
Sentinel: Less (N/A 2021, Top 2 2021, Top 2 2023)
Initiator: Crashies (top 3-4 2021, top 1 2022, top 5 2023)
Idk about init Leo stax or sacy might be better
Flex: I got no clue, forsaken, victor, chronicle no clue tbh
IGL: Saadhak (N/A 2021, Top 1-2 2021, Top 3 2023)

Aspas in terms of impact and consistency, less in terms of fragging and carrying
Both are important and necessary for a top player

Sayf, derke,qiwi, cned etc
Cmon brotha

Great player obviously
Hopefully fut dont throw international events again tho

Neither nrg or lev make Madrid, both are top of their group but choke in playoffs

1. Physics 2
2. Chem
3. Calc Ab
4. Physics 1 (just electrostatics or whatever that shit was called)
5. Microeconomics

Easiest gotta be

1. AP csp
2. AP environmental science
3. Ap lang
4. Ap calc bc
5. Ap world history

Ah that makes sense
Yeah I’m my school u can’t take bc without passing ab first

Ye that’s what I did
Plus at my school ab is 8 units and bc is 2 units + ab review
Bc is literally the easiest math class I’ve taken since algebra 2

wtf
At my school ab is 8 units and bc is 2 units

Bc is free wtf
Ab is so much harder

Apart of Reykjavik and group stage Copenhagen, he was never a super statistically good player
He will still have impact with his lurks tho

Scrims do not go to 24
But it is weird the rest all add up to 24

Don’t think he’s coming back 😂

Nrg starts well but doesn’t win any trophies
Sen win champs
Fns retires

Not enough kills to go around

How he shows up every close series fnatic have

Nah I get that but people are delusional with not giving the players especially Alfa and Leo credit
Just because the team couldn’t win champs those two are suddenly only too 5 in their role and apparently dogshit

Obv goat igl no one clears saadhak not even fns forget boaster

Loud (Aspas>victor, pancada 2022 => marved, champs sacy => crashies) , DRX (zest<crashies but buzz >=victor and mako >=marved)
Team liquid (sayf > victor, crashies =jampii, nats >victor (sentinel)
A few others I’m too lazy to pull up rn
They beat EG as well despite demon1 > victor and Ethan > crashies

Why do na people hate fnatic so much?
People genuinely think com is better than Leo
This has to be bait right????

Individuals aside saadhak still clears

U do realize that this is a team game right
U don’t need to have individually better players to beat someone
Marved crashies and victor have always beat players better than them individually

He was great at Tokyo too top fragged half of NRG’s matches and tied w som

By far it’s not even close bros the best or 2nd best player itw

I think his duelist is kinda sketchy
His controller is top tier but he was never great on entry

Zellsis is NOT better than victor wtf
Kingg maybe, but is he really a flex? He plays kay0 and viper for the most part
Demon1 feels more like a duelist who played smokes because EG had weird roles than a flex tbh

Reazy and elite looks crazy aswell
If Turkey didn’t lack top tier IGLs and have weird management they could easily squeeze out two super teams right now

Disagree on the Trent take, we need to see him on lan against top international teams first
Trent is a better pure initiator than flex
Tenz maybe but I think they flex onto different agents so it’s hard to compare

Yeah it’s a pity qrax can’t play raze
Fut look good in 2024 tho can’t wait to see them
I hope the next Emea team to win a trophy is a Turkish scene to inject some life into it

Oooh idk man I get wym about people underrating quti and qiwi but I feel like cned has huge impact that his stats don’t show

His aim is insane
Not a good player
Aim =\ fragger

Who is a better flex than him in Americas other than jawgemo?

Why so?
He looked amazing at 2021 (3rd in Berlin), and nearly mvped Emea league and was top 3 in Tokyo

For sure
I’d say Aspas and jinggg are both better entries than derke, they just had worse teams

I think yay and cryo should both try maining sentinel
Suits how they play more I think

I think yay and cryo should both try maiming sentinel
Suits how they play more I think

I agree with the derke take, but to be fair he’s been consistent for 3+ years through many metas and fnatic rosters so that prolly plays a factor

For sure som is a really good controller player
I genuinely hope sticking with fns doesn’t ruin his own personal opportunities ( assuming he wants to compete )

Absolutely not lmfao
No one thinks he’s good anymore

Yeah if anything victor is slightly underrated and crashies is slightly overrated
I had people telling me 2023 Zekken was better than victor 2023

Som and nats are crazy takes
Why do u think so

Damn lmfao poor guy 😭

Which is sad because he genuinely is a good player
People think every na talent is either dogshit or Jesus Christ

What’s ur thoughts on zyppan?
I think he’s one of the most underrated tier 1 players

Maybe
He’s preformed decent recently though despite navi struggling
Imma catch flack for this but his aim is a bit overrated

I think he’s actually slightly underrated
People underestimate how good a support he is because he frags out
Look at his assist numbers