Nah get jonahp on kovaaks bro idk what he’s doing this year he was their second best player behind leaf last year
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Nah get jonahp on kovaaks bro idk what he’s doing this year he was their second best player behind leaf last year
Really? I’ve always thought he was quite snappy
Not relative to their fragging ability if that makes sense
He DID NOT carry in 2023
Demon1 and Ethan were better like 90% of the year
Stop the EG ethan erasure
I’d hundred percent agree
His aim is great but not as great as his fragging ability would normally require
It’s his movement that allows him to be a fragger
He’s not an insane fragger tho, due to the nature of his role
His mechanics are pretty good as well
Fantastic shout I completely forgot
He’s so smart under pressure
Which players do y’all think are fraggers/carries with mid/unexceptional aim relative to their fragging?
I’d say Leo, chronicle, nats, leaf are the people that come to mind immediately
Scream Keznit and Sayf kinda held themselves back, scream and Sayf by switching off their best roles a lot and igling, Keznit by staying with kru, although things are looking up for them recently.
If you can’t beat the good teams ur not making it far anyways
Alfajer is greater than Leo since he has more achievements
He’s not better though. Let me explain;
On prime fnatic, every single close match they had minus Emea finals, Leo was better than Alfa every single time. In lock-in, Leo was far better than Alfajer. In Emea league, Alfa was better for sure. Alfa was slightly better at Tokyo, but the one close match they had, Leo was once again better than Alfa. At champs, Alfajer started farming zeta and bilibili, but once they got to the actually hard matches, Leo was once again better.
In 2024, fnc were struggling a lot more, and Leo was once again their best player by far. At points in stage1 playoffs it felt like he single-handedly willed them into Shanghai, carrying their reverse sweep against heretics too.
Alfa is good too but when they were both playing together there was no doubt who was better.
I think people should be able to communicate and enjoy the game the same way regardless of their gender, something that they cant change. That’s not saying men don’t experience throwers and toxicity, but they don’t because of their gender specifically.
Communicating is an essential part of valorant. Half the time a women speaks and the weirdos in the lobby start making weird comments or throwing the game/sabotaging them for no reason. That makes the game very unenjoyable, even if you mute.
Really hard for me to read since I’m using vlr on mobile but I agree with what ur saying. To be fair, I think mastering agents is only 30% utility mastery and 70% understanding the play style of the agent and being good at the angles and positions you usually play on the agent.
I think it’s worse in Val because there are more women playing Val however. The CS player base is as bad, just fewer interactions to highlight it. I also think a lot of mfs are unable to view women as just another human and constantly view them either sexually or in a misogynistic light. They think of them as “other” just because they aren’t the same gender.
Honestly this is less a valorant issue and more of a societal issue. I do think riot could be a bit more severe with responding to sexism though; every time I hear a women talk on my team or duo with one I start praying none of my teammates start being weird, but someone almost always says some out of pocket shit.
Oh shit you’re right. Yet another roster lmfao. Poor prx they’ve gotten fucked with military service and visa issues, had a chance at both tourneys with a full roster.
That was the third I mentioned with something, I missed the third at Madrid but that was a different roster too (monyet not jingg)
You’re only looking at skill as mechanics though. My problem is that the nerfs don’t make the agent unable to do what it did before, but simply make mastering the agent less relevant. Putting more time into an agent is now less rewarding, which imo is an issue. You can still raze double satchel with a judge or omen one way, but now being better at either of those agents won’t allow you do it more or more scenarios.
Weird ass mfs that never go outside and view women as female first and human second
Would go so hard since Zekken is insane raze and neon and cryo is an insane opper. XSET revival
Well obviously prx are greater than optic all time
If ur talking about a single roster that’s up for debate. In the span of 5 tournaments, optic won 1, got 2 second placed, and a 3rd place. Prx with Benkai got a 4th and a 2nd, a 3rd and a 2nd with something, and won one with patmen. But prx core >> optic core in terms of greatness.
They are lowering the skill ceiling tho. Raze satchels are still good for entering, but now you can’t quite pull off the same instant entries off barrier if you are really good on raze. Omen is still insane, but you can’t pull off the same one ways to hold certain angles. Skye dog still allows you to clear positions, but you can’t move it as well to avoid it getting shot. Cypher cam no longer rewards not instantly shooting the dart or learning a better cam spot.
They should buff what makes astra unique (suck/stun) and brim unique (stim beacon) rather than nerfing what makes omen unique (best smokes) over and over again
Just a joke mate if my mom was spamming emojis and calling herself mommy in third person it would be a little weird too.
Good on zeek for getting another chance, keloqz got potential too. Emea look stacked especially with the new fnc roster with chron and Leo, but navi are definitely still the front runners.
Yeah ig, I thought it was satire when I first read her messages but ig that’s just how she communicates
Maybe I’m tripping but she’s a bit weird no
Why does she always spam emojis and talk in all caps
This isn’t even an op piece of util, they just keep lowering skill level. Most of the util they are nerfing wont matter unless ur good enough to actually abuse them, and if you are, ur opponents are usually good enough to deal with it as a point. I mean, just look at them adding agents like Tejo. Riot are tripping.
The cam positions are obvious tho, most maps only have a few really good slots. You also can see the cam even if it isn’t popped and get a sound cue when it is popped. Cyphers not even op rn, this is just lowering skill level
wtf are riot doing bro
Are they ok???
Skye dog change, omen one way change, raze satchel nerf then this…
Who are they even appealing to bro bronzes/irons are the minority of player base
What are they gonna do next, automatically make ur player model turn from flashes?
I want to post a certain copy pasta so bad but I don’t think it’s valid anymore after they actually won a tournament
Benching or removing him would be the height of idiocy. He’s not just a fantastic caller, but he micromanages mid rounds and multiple players like derke and Alfajer has said he helps them improve off the server as well. I personally do think them losing the final was partially his fault, but his impact outside of the finals was unreal and removing him would the height of stupidity.
He was shooting fine honestly, it’s only the grand finals he played terribly. It wasn’t just shooting,. His decision making was very questionable at times. Prolly just pressure/nerves
I wanted to help him shoot a little better 🥲
Wish it had gone 5 maps man Alfa was on pace for 125
Only reason why fnc made it as far as they did was blasters calling. That being said, 13 first deaths on smokes and going -30 makes an impact when there was a 13-11 and a 14-12 map losses. Fnc got first bloods a lot and had good calls but boaster died early and failed to get trades.
I agree champs is harder to win, but to play devils advocate, wouldn’t more teams make it easier? If there are 8 teams, you have to play the TWO best teams from each region to win the trophy. On the other hand at champs, there’s a chance you could play the 3rd or 4th best team from the region.
Yeah I’d prolly agree. I think jingg played really well in like 3-4 of the playoff games until the grand finals tho, pleasantly surprised. He barely even threw so something caught all the flack.
Is he more impactful because his kills and fragging were more impactful or simply because his team was a lot shittier? Would you say Aspas has more impact on lev than loud simply because he needs to carry more?
I do agree that his Toronto performance is still unbelievably impressive, definitely the highest tournament long peak we’ve seen since demon1 at champs 23.
Forsaken or jingg > Davai if ur looking at the whole tourney. Even in grand finals forsaken top fragged every map prx actually won.
He was by far fnc best player in Toronto unlike in Tokyo with competition from chron and Leo, but he still had some whiffs and one slow and one mid match. At Tokyo, dude was untradeavle hitting like 10 clutches and multi kills a map and had an unreal grand finals.
This is true, but EG champs > fnatic Tokyo. Ascend champs > gambit Berlin, loud champs > optic Reykjavik, etc. it’s because of what fnatic gambit and optic did the rest of the year that puts them as the best team of the year.
I 100% agree. Was just discussing this with someone else on the same thread. I would put edg over th for the year though since did actually get the crucial grand finals win and did beat heretics to do it, but I’d prolly have geng over both.
I personally think edg winning champs was more impressive geng winning shanghai, but geng were better across alll of 2024, because they also had a second place whereas edg struggled outside of champs. I do think champs win > masters alone because more teams + later on in year = more competition.
Yoyo, 5CM, and hfmi0dzjc9z7
Where the fuck are Tyloo finding these people bro
My apologies, I actually watched those games too I’m just an idiot. I also did think Madrid was a fluke until champs (several Madrid rosters were missing players), so I’ll hold off on the t1 slander until champs. They were my fav apac team at the start of the year due to being a buzz fan so I’m definitely rooting for their comeback
Does that mean optic are STILL better than fnc all time? Reykjavik was pretty Mickey Mouse iirc
Riot changes the meta too often. Also, individual skill matters less than being good at whatever the meta agent in your role is in whatever specific meta is currently going on. Aspas and derke less and Alfajer are all goat front runners because killjoy/viper/jett have been meta for nearly valorant’s lifespan.
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