i think it would be for the best if you started basing this off of statistics and raw numbers dude, idk how you can disagree with that

i've been watching pro valorant since masters 1 2021, fake loud fans are by far the worst. they haven't even lost a game, yet their "fans" are blaming a map 1 loss on a specific player calling for their removal? what kind of fan is that?

good take, never thought about loud being studied like that. but, the role and player changes for other teams shouldn't mean LOUD get 2-1'd by every team, i just think loud struggles with map 1 and heat up by the end of the series because of mental fortitude

could you show me which statistics and raw numbers you're basing this off of?

prx (at least the ones on vlr)

ok, here's my list based on gut feeling and biases

1. LOUD
2. C9
3. Furia
4. Leviatan
5. NRG
6. 100T
7. SEN
8. EG
9. mibr
10. kru

(i also included some statistics and raw numbers)

fnatic and drx not so much, i think optic 2022 was close but NA and Brazil have an issue with bandwagoning behind a good team when they don't really support them

i'm just basing this off of statistics and raw numbers dude, idk how you can disagree with this

today has shown that some LOUD "supporters" are willing to jump ship as soon as things look rough. after map 1, i saw so many people with loud pfps and banners calling for the removal of players which is incredibly fucked up. out of any team, loud has the most fake fans and i think losing 1 group stage match would help get rid of a bunch of those cringe people who talk shit which give real loud supporters a bad name.

i'm just basing this off of statistics and raw numbers dude, idk how you can disagree with this

nah LOUD's a good team. doesn't matter if it's a 2-0 or a 2-1, what matters is winning the series.

thank you for citing my sources

1. LOUD
2. C9
3. Furia
4. Leviatan
5. NRG
6. 100T
7. SEN
8. EG
9. mibr
10. kru

maybe i misphrased it. the original guy was omitting the fact that some brazilians (a good amount) were also shitting on loud. why even bring the word gringos into it when it's not just foreigners shitting on Loud? seems very deceitful.

glad we could come to a peaceful resolution

i think gringo is just a word that exists, people upset by it give it a certain power that it shouldn't have

saving this for later, thanks!

gringos are too many people, the original poster should have said "some gringos".
Another thing: brazilians on twitter are like gringos on vlr, i was just using a fair comparison since the original poster was likely referencing people on vlr.

i'd bet a million dollars that 90% of non-Loud supporters understand that Loud is still an amazing team and that Kru played well today.

Bro making fun of english of non-natives ☠️☠️☠️

when and where did i ever do that? my original message?
if you don't understand what i said, that's on you. i guess you just don't understand my culture, what i said is considered a joke by many

they would've blamed a specific player or coach and called for their removal. that's what they did after map 1

anyone who gives a definitive answer is braindead. two different leagues with two different playstyles, none of these games are a good justification as to determine which team is better right now.

so you admit that brazilians were also looking down on loud? so you're saying i'm correct?

why try to single out gringos and further the divide between NA and Brazil without a good reason?

i may be a gringo but i'm not looking down on loud at all

except it's not just foreigners buddy, go take a look around. brazilians on twitter were crying about loud losing a map to kru, calling for the removal of players. stop pushing this bullshit narrative and back your words up with something of substance

did you miss where i said: "i take pride in being a gringo"?

he has an american flag next to his name on vlr, of course brazilians would hate him being on LOUD

overused bad bait

yeah but the original poster did, cause i've seen brazilians criticizing them also. seems like he only wanted to attack non-brazilians for some reason, maybe its cause it ruins the narrative of "it's us against the world".

but hey that's just a theory

who's that pokemon?

try 5 queueing with people with braincells, always works for me

i take pride in being a gringo, but using it as a derogatory word to flame people for a fair criticism (that may not be true) is kinda fucked

haters will say it's from champions 2021

truer words have never been said. bottom 4 teams are almost confirmed for every region except for americas. but yeah, we're the worst region!

and are these "gringos" in the room with us right now?

i love shitmea fans claiming their region is the best when KC KOI and Heretics exist

no. tokyo will prove all the doubters wrong. just because emea is used to a non-competitive region doesn't mean our top teams are dogshit

loud, c9, and NRG will wipe the floor with shitmea

or EMEA is a 1 team mickey mouse region

not because i hate loud, but it would prove americas to be the most competitive region. it would mean every americas team that people used to claim as shit will have beaten a very strong team, while pacific and emea have obviously bad teams that don’t belong in franchising and haven’t figured out a major fix

(maybe KC counts but they beat KOI, not fnatic or navi)

i can see this happening

i’m glad he’s back to doing analyst shit and hopefully riot wakes up and chooses him as a caster/analyst for tokyo

much like minecraft, i stopped caring after 1.8

name checks out

THERE’S MORE??? fuck i gotta catch up on my human lore

joseph mother...? ever heard of him?

classic jackb2016 shitting on the haters

my rankings are backed up with irrefutable stats

Oh brother... this guy stinks!

shit was actually really funny, zekken and sacy shit talking each other is gold

am i becoming a sen fan? never thought this day would come

aur naurrrrr

EG yoru comp

me. i did that

some people aren’t real man i don’t get how people can scroll through 5+ people pointing out the obvious joke and people still cry about their team not being #1