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If tier one Valorant is supposed to be the absolute peak of skill with the greatest players in the world, why do we allow orgs like Cloud9 who are running budget rosters and effectively becoming a poverty franchise?
Riot needs to add some sort of relegation system, or C9 will just hold this spot and refuse to ever produce an actual winning team.
Specifically refering to this scrim leak: https://twitter.com/TrickAIM/status/1698158723703709773
It might not be JUST Leo, but considering how he's ruining the vct he and many others should be fired.
Yes it is the guard's fault, but the decision to kick out the 5 players entirely was done by leo.
He obviously could've let them find a new org to represent them.
ok keep living in your world where the vct gets fucked up by some random guy in the shadows.
Obviously, you don't know what protesting is and yes it works.
If you guys want to help, make sure my thread that says 'Fire Leo Faria' never gets buried.
I'm waiting on my flight
We don't disagree, we just see things differently.
The contract would be 100% relied on the Player's signature. Not the org, at the end of the day the players could deny any org that would attempt to steal this spot by not signing with them and ultimately always end up in the same scenario as a 5 man f/a roster where the original org makes no money off of the slot being sold.
In your very first statement, he could be fired for doing a shit job.
Leo IS in control of how the VCT is run, it's in his x.com bio and he has stated publicly that he does control the vct circuit.
In your comparison to the LCS, League lets them sell their spots... Completely different scenario.
The only thing is that the players choose the org NOT DSG in this case. What if the 5 players chose a different org? Now G2 is completely fucked over with no slot.
For this to actually happen the table agreement would have to be done with the 5 players NOT the org itself.
There is legit no legal problem if they treated this current 5 man as a f/a 5 man that just won ascension.
dawg read what he said + What happens if the players don't wish to work with the interested team? They could fuck over everything.
It's significantly easier to fire Leo than Roger Goodell. It's not comparable.
The NFL is owned by a series of individual franchise owners
At the corporate level, the National Football League considers itself a trade association made up of and financed by its 32 member teams.
24/32 Owners would have to agree to fire Roger Goodall, whereas at riot it takes Nicolo Laurent's command.
Do research before you come at to someone.
No, Roger Goodell is the CEO of the NFL.
Leo is the Global Head of Val Esports, he could be fired by higher management at riot.
Dude
At that point a third party would have to buy the entire org that won, essentially just buying out a normal franchise league team, which can happen at legit any moment.
He literally has the power to make these kinds of decisions, he's part of the reason why these guys aren't playing next year.
If they let riot choose the org then it could work.
At that point just re-brand the org.
He doesn't explain it in the text, there is still no difference if a f/a 5 man won ascension vs. rn.
Up vote this thread if you think Leo Faria should be fired.
The Guard let all of their players go with no buy out btw, any team could just walk in pick them up for league minimum and go play in franchise
how is the current state of the 5 players that were on the guard any different from a 5 man f/a team that won ascension?
"We want to see five friends and dream making it all the way to the top, and we are prepared for that occasion. In case a free agent team makes it to an International League, the players would have an opportunity to find an organization that would support them in the International League. This particular situation is different, since this team played through Challengers and Ascension under The Guard banner, and became free agents after the fact. Allowing an acquisition by a different organization now opens the door for slots in the VCT to be sold, which we do not allow."
The Guard isn't selecting which org represents the 5 players, the 5 players would. The only thing that should change is now the 5 player team does not have an org and they deserve time to find an org to represent them.
Selling VCT slots would happen in both cases Leo, you fucking moron.
"If the argument is that M80 has not earned ascension then we would agree to play a one match playoff against any team in the Americas you feel deserves an equal opportunity to ascend. We are happy to get back on stage and compete." M80 Marco, CEO of M80
https://twitter.com/mfmereu/status/1696627822301794526
He gonna fight leo himself for this spot
Despite Gambit getting kicked out from the war in Ukraine you let them play under M3C, not even an organization
The Guard's players deserve the same respect.
Don't let the Guard fumbling a franchise spot distract you from the fact that C9 choked a 14-5 lead against FaZe on their own map pick in the Last Chance Qualifier for the Paris Major
People are singing petitions and everything to get this team into the Americas League. Truly the greatest fans.
nah ur hella delusional if you said everyone in this thread disagrees. It takes less than 10 seconds to see that.
Only an EU fan
Yes they would
PRX can only play 3 maps total they eat shit in a Bo5
Well you see, EG and Loud did this thing called "Improving"
That's why I'm saying if PRX played Loud right now Loud would prob win. Also PRX doesn't have a map pool
acs don't mean anything
A flash from a teammate can make or break a kill and only gets 25 scoring vs the 90-150 scoring for clicking a head
Forever why everyone says Duelist players are the goats for stats and not look at actual individual skill on a role (ex: Chronicle)
Yes it does prove that they could beat PRX
Saying oh "they beat them earlier in the tourney so they're better now" makes no sense
DRX killed Loud earlier and no one is talking about how they're better.
Yeah, but these stats are after that. Rn Loud would be the better team based on this.
These results are after that tho, as of rn Loud would beat prx
These results are after that though, based off of this Loud does seem like the better team.
It does look like Loud got better in the time between that loss.
Bit of a hot take
If EG win vs. Loud in 5 maps that were even
EG win vs. PRX in 4 maps that were chosen more in favor of PRX
isn't Loud just the better team then?
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