SEN only screwed if g2 and lev do very well at Shanghai. doesn't top 4 in points qual to champs

Kru didnt make it to champs so even if g2 and lev overtake them they'd be in the top 4.

if SEN dont get any points in stage 2 and C9 + Kru do very well in stage 2 would they really be in danger i think.

KC isn't a bad team at all though, first seed of group A so its not like FNC had it easy.
Navi also lost against BBL during groups, if they didn't they'd have gotten first seed and went straight to double elim.

The format wasn't even that bad, if NAVI was so good they'd have beaten TH or any opponent they come across.
FNC did beat TH in the end with Leo being sick. So they deserve to go

Texture broke the record of most kills in a BO5 did he not? so why try to take away from a clearly good player?
he still performes amazing and is doing very well

I don't think Shazh, Pancada and Dapr were treated that badly.

it's shit that Shazh found out through a tweet but SEN probably didn't mean for him to find out like that. they probably wanted to tell him in person. So thats not even there fault, unless the CEO or a coach told this Geddes guy.

Pancada was just unlucky, Zellsis was a way better fit for the team and the performance of the team without Pancada was such an improvement that they would be dumb to put Pancada back into the team

Dapr stuff isnt something i really know much about so i can't say much about this.;

But again its very different from other ORGs, EG still threw away a winning team, other orgs do just as much dumb shit or keep players trapped for an entire season with insane buyouts.

OW doesn't, call of duty mostly has upward recoil and not really set patterns

OW doesn't, call of duty mostly has upward recoil and not really set patterns (wrong reply whoops)

Why are they hating on a good org? in terms of just the org its been amazing. they treat their players well, dont randomaly collapse, they aren't a shit org like EG who just ditch a great team for their salaries.

I get SEN fans can be little shits but there's also those that just like SEN and act normal.

To be honest if they change it now after so long it'll probably ruin the game for alot of people. since they'd suddenly have to change everything they have known for 3 years. That and it'd be even more of a cs go rip off if they use the same spray patterns

so you're saying there is no skill in aiming rn?

they cant win on round diff...

liquid needs 28 to go +7 which is impossible in 2 maps. since 13-0 and 13-0 is still only 26. And if they go to 3 maps FNC wins in map diff anyways

NA:
C9 (i like runi)
100T it would be nice to see them again with a better team.
G2 it would be sick if the ascension team made it there.
EMEA:
FNC if they manage to pick themselves up. otherwise they'll be boring in shanghai
FUT they look good and would have close matches
TH would make good matches too
APAC:
DRX look amazing and i like seeing them do well
PRX Jingg is back so i look forward to seeing him play again
Gen.G mostly to prove Madrid wasn't a fluke.
CN:
EDG kangkang is always fun to watcg
FPX look good
DRG i think they can actually do well if they get some international experience

FNC winning the entire thing would be cool cuz i'm a fan and from europe. (cope tho they dont look great)

how tf do you see them making playoffs? G2 and NRG would have to lose 0-2 with horrible round differentials...

i don't think there are tie breaker matches

what? as long as a team got 2 wins they get their spot in each group.

So unless you mean in group Alpha if C9 loses.

because c9 is 4-1 and the other two are 3-2

NVM i thought you meant G2 would qual. i cant read

If Kaplan is doing that then they dont give a shit about going to Shanghai. its just weird. they didnt just look bad. they looked like shit, pure shit.

As a SEN fan wouldn't you want to see a better version of them even with old comps that people can anti strat? i'd rather see them make a real attempt at Shanghai and dont get to play offs there then what now happened

its useless to think about what strats they are saving. whats the use of saving them if you cant make it to Shanghai.
Unless they dont care about Shanghai en just want to make it to champs which is basically guaranteed.

Its just stupid to save strats, they could have use 1 new comp to just win 1 more game to give them more of a safety net. now they lost to EG and the worst LOUD we have ever had

Sen cant win anymore. as in they have no way to make it to playoffs

Furia and MIBR worse then top 3 challengers teams

Mibr and Furia look worse than most challengers teams tbh. i think M80, Oxygen and MxS could easily beat them.

Kc and TH didn't make it out of groups in what everyone calls the worst tournament to date...

you should keep in mind that they only look good in their region. EDG can look like Gods in CN and fail in internationals.

Same goes teams like Kc and TH they were amazing in EMEA but didn't make it out of groups

you can also say its not fair if they get a 1 win minimum. its just 1 less match than group Alpha, so everybody would be guaranteed to go to playoffs. The problem is that almost all good teams are in Alpha with execptions like Loud (even though they didnt win a map. they were thought to be good before now).

if you switched C9 and Mibr then it would have been better imo. or Furia aswell since they also suck.

Nrg should win right?

if EG goes 1-4 does that mean their spot for play offs goes to the other group? so group Alpha?