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imagine saying based on consistency and not putting scream up there
who treated val as "a casual game to play with friends"?
Yaboidre nooo whyyyy
gl in your new carrer path tho'
fuck marvedfixer, Leorge Ledden all the way
NatanK was amazing last time they played, H1ber is pretty bad indeed
Nukkye and Hoody definitely find a team, the rest probably should do as well.
What an L list of teams, sad day for valorant, hopefully things will only be getting better from now on.
is there a place to see all confirmed teams in and not in?
Jady lmao
chronicle and nats will easily find teams, sheydos should as well, we'll see about redgar. also what's up with purp0? was he there just for 1 map or was he part of the team?
https://twitter.com/xccurateCSGO/status/1571572350428102657?s=20&t=jr4XQwqJW06d6gd-nx16-A
W, no doubt
what is case doing?
never seen anyone put in this much work into a vrl post, great list and actually seems to reflect reality pretty well
well for some reason teams just seem to forget how to play the game when facing xset. Xerxia was missing kills from behind, FPX played quite possibly the worst breeze i have ever seen in a pro tournament, no matter the tier and Fnatic had it's worst streak of form since that current roster came to be, with boaster throwing every two rounds. Optic was the first team that played somewhat well against them and suddenly it was almost a 2-0 if not for cryo's heroics on ascent.
so in cocnclusion, xset's opponents simply never played well during this tourney and yet all of their games were fairly close :3
people who aren't into val esports but know tenz are cs players, i'd have no idea who he is if not for my general interest in esports. anyone interested in it tho' will know that both players i mentioned outshine tenz nowadays, unless they are just too biased.
S1mple and from what i know Faker are both at least near the top of their respective esport, tenz is not.
yay or forsaken are probably the closest rn, people saying tenz live in the past
are they ever not toxic? crazy stuff.
useb to be a 100T fan, i feel you man. just ignore the community and focus on the players, you'll be happier.
great content, glad some people make learning fun just like that guy
i just put DRX above Fnatic bc DRX will look good in groups before flopping imo,
and had edward go out 0-2 with leviathan beating lqd twice
other than that, everything checks out lol
good, i wanna see him try new things with how poor his form has recently been
disagree, best team in 2021 was the one that one champions. But they were a close second with their M3 win.
right click classic is cringe overload
lmao pearl is the most split like map in the pool
fuck icebox tho', most brainless map ever. hope they bring split in for it.
one of the best maps in the game wich actually requires a brain, of course vlr hates it
that was exactly what i was wondering yesterday. it's fucked up but so many pro teams are trying to just overcomplicate their icebox playbook when in reality it's the simplest map in the game.
can you then show me a version of this that is better formatted?
also the formatting was a little different but i just noticed vrl seems to have messed it up a bit so I gotta agree. but i dunno what i can do if the site itself is gonna be changing it lol
another one of those long posts no one will read, nonetheless enjoy.
TL;DR
Case is not a bad team but their reliance on wolfen won't get them far,
especially as i'll be shocked if no bigger team picks him up.
they gotta cut their aim focused playstyle and actually develop a deeper
playbook if they wanna conquer top spots.
so they were great, until wolfen wasn't.
case coming into this thing seemed like a no name team for many people,
i've started following them a while ago so i'm hoping they will look at
least somewhat good, but i wouldn't expect a lot.
Case vs Excel
this game first took us to ascent - Case's map pick. while Case's very
agressive and reliant-on-duels style is flashy, it was clear that XL
was prepared for this map. they knew exactly how to contain their
opponents aggression.
Case failed to adapt and just decided to keep running into the same,
suprisingly managing to still get quite a few rounds. nonetheless they
were very stubborn and it was definitely what cost them the map.
as Haven rolled around, things were looking grim with a 4-8 defensive
half, and although wolfen started popping off and got some mad kills -
Excel handled it well. But haven is a rather attacker sided map so Case
seemed not to worry too much.
on attack they were looking very comfy with wolfen giving them just too much
space as he won what seemed to be every single aim duel. add to that the
struggling jett of Alive and what you get is an easy comeback.
Finally moving onto icebox, after a slow start Case take control of the
match and end up destroying excel with a solid plan and an even better
performance aim-wise.
case vs tenstar
Tenstar's bind was looking very promising after their Vitality game but oh
boy was it awful this time around. A 13-2 result in case's favor that
certainly wasn't an accident.
I feel like this map came down to wolfen A LOT. whenever tenstar were on a
full buy and tried getting some space, he would often single-handedly stop
them.
Haven had a closer scoreline but it doesn't mean it was a pleasant game to
watch... quite frankly i would call it one of the worst maps of professional
valorant i've ever seen. round 19 sums it up, you can look for a vod if you
wanna know what i mean, nonetheless both team played like shit - but case
was just less shit than tenstar.
Case vs A.Titans
honestly while the first map was fairly tasteless in terms of startegy for
Case, and the yoru of Bipo diffed them completely - the other two maps were
complete blow outs.
13-2 on haven as their opponents ran Phoenix and Cypher.
13-3 on icebox as they clearly knew how to play against the reyna of Lime.
they were just levels above.
Case vs Vitality
This was the first game where something i was worried about since the start
got exposed - their reliance on Wolfen.
first we had breeze and it was clear that Case were unable to gain space
whithout Wolfen destroying their opponents.
So since wolfen was not as good as before it was now exposed that this team
does lack layers. their gameplan relies heavily on a chamber gaining space.
also often it would be just wolfen going in, wich is weird when you have
ambi on raze or jett.
Haven was an example of Vitality's poor map pool i guess. Case looked good
there as usually while Vita was lacking in terms of good executes on attack
and made some poor rotations on defence and lost.
and on ascent it was back to the issues from map 1.
gotta give case one thing tho' - they were less predictable on this ascent
than they were against Excel, so they actually improved it and still lost.
Case vs FUT
Case coming into this was the favorite but FUT is a cracked team with some
experience on the T1 scene, interesting matchup.
and it's the vitality game again but to an even bigger degree.
i'll just sum up all 3 maps.
-Case never had enough map control (maybe except on haven)
-Wolfen didn't carry
-FUT was able to outaim them all
so biggest take away?
depth.
they lack depth.
Player thoughts:
Wolfen - guy has to get picked up by a bigger team. i could see him replace
Meddo on G2 for example as he's show he can play sentinels and tbh i don't
think he's good enough to play the star player role in T1.
at least not yet.
Falltw - great player but probably will remain in the T2 stage for a while
in the group stage he would sometimes pick up the slack if wolfen stopped
carrying, but calmed down a lot in playoffs.
Ambi - his switch onto dueslist was definitely a good idea but idk why he
sometimes just isn't the entry. cracked player, could see him in T1.
yurii - falltw 2.0
Roxie - probably the most undewhelming one out of the bunch. sometimes
reminds me of shao and sometimes of an average matchmaking player.
the biggest plus is that his util seem susually on point but he often fails
at an individual level wich for case's playstyle should be unacceptable.
lmao need remind you of chamions?
and every tournament afterwards that liquid played in, how many did they win?
biggest chokers tierlist?
And we say goodbye to another team from the VRL finals, it's Angry Titans in 4th
TL;DR
It's a team with good fundamentals that doesn't make huge mistakes, but
their opponents seem to always be half a step ahead. some of their team
comps and agent distributions need work but they got a fan in me after this
tournament for all the fun i've had while watching their yoru, phoenix
or cypher plays.
Angry titans, for me, were an unknown team coming into this thing.
The only thing i heard about them was "they aren't the worst team,
they can upset someone"
A.Titans vs Flacons
Haven was a quick game, a 5-13 loss without any real gameplan shown by AT.
Saving strats maybe?
Bind was... something for sure. they decided to pull out the yoru, and while
at first it seemed to be a bad choice as Bipo wasn't doing much for the
first 5 rounds or so, after he warmed up a bit he was a clear MVP.
Falcons seemed lost in the world of our Japanese friends and once again,
my favorite proplay agent shines bright on bind. also i think this game
might pave the way for more teams to pick up yoru as AT has shown you don't
need to be PRX to be good at it.
Breeze didn't have much to write home about as Falcons picked jett AND reyna.
it was GG go next from the start so i barely paid attention.
overall not a bad game from AT, but Falcons aren't the biggest challenge.
A.Titans vs FUT
first we had them meet on haven where titans looked better than vs Falcons
but not as good as they had to be.
what i'd love to see for them here is a raze. Against FUT they ran
fade+kayo wich while good is just not at the same level. also overall i
prefer Raze over Kay/o on this map.
on Split i have another comp issue - Bipo on breach. this guy who was a
beast as a yoru is now gonna play an initiator?
worst part is, they have great fundamentals. it's a team that doesn't make
obvious mistakes that you see and immeadietly go "Oh my god! What are they
doing! they're throwing!". it's just that their opponents are always this
tiny bit better...
A.Titans vs Case
on Bind the yoru of Bipo struck once again, but this time not to that extent.
In the end some nice plays from fall and wolfen were enough to secure the
win for case.
now the other two maps is where the fun ends.
i was hype for haven as AT pulled out a cypher and... Phoenix!
they also ran jett at the same time.
unfortunately it backfired and i'm gonna double down on my raze proposition,
as they got blasted 13-2...
on icebox they went for their usual coinflip with picking reyna, and the
Reyna of lime didn't deliver going -9, final scoreline 13-3 for case.
A.Titans vs FUT(2)
i was curious to see whether they learned anything from their first FUT game.
we kicked it off with the icebox reyna pick, no suprise as AT lose 6-13.
qw1 popping of a few times as well as their stubbornness to keep going
middle led them to a mediocre attack half ending in a 6-6 scoreline.
since icebox is an attacker sided map they won nothing of defence, the
aggresion with the reyna is easy to predict and very 2020'ish, FUT just knew.
On fracture it just seemed like neither team knew how to attack often
coming into sites from only one entry on full buy rounds.
but ultimately AT was more coordinated and i think FUT's weird comp might've
fired back a bit. (Althought AT also picked astra to be fair)
On breeze at the start FUT was giving sites away for fairly free while AT
had great postplants, but as FUT started holding onto the sites more
aggresively the trouble began.
titans could only time their entries right half the time wich led to a
lackluster half ending in a 6-6 scoreline. Now on defence they started with
a very passive stance, wich changed after a timeout but they overdone.
it was that lack of another layer that got them here. once they got
aggressive they didn't stop while earlier they were always passive.
Fut read it and just waited for them to push in the last 2 rounds.
phew... this was a long one. felt like writing i guess.
player thoughts:
Bipo - give this man all the duelists. His Yoru is so good he should just be
the star player of this team, taking all those roles like raze, chamber ETC.
also wouldn't be suprised to see him get picked up by a bigger org.
hearthbeat - probably the most underwhelming performance. he's solid but
could be replaced by almost any other player with a similar role.
Lime - i feel like he could benefit from a role switch with Bipo on most
maps. He doesn't look comfy on duelists and it would also take some pressure
off his shoulders.
Eppz - was very solid this tourney, had some nice plays. a solid 6 or 7/10.
AFoxx - just doesn't put up the numbers a chamber should, but he is not bad
overall. another players who i'd love to see on other agents.
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oh? i don't follow League so didn't know that. well then probaly PSG , FB or Galata. or maybe even Besiktas? i know they had a cs team at some point and i think a lol one as well.
Tenstar summary, didn't post yesterday as i wasn't home and just finished watching the vod
of their last game. btw wish i didn't watch it...
TL;DR
Tenstar did what all polish CS teams love doing - they beat one of the
favorites to then go out in 2 games. they looked impeccable in their first
vitality game, to then get outaimed by case and outplayed by vita in a
rematch.
As a Tenstar supporter i gotta say - i expected tenstar to go out in a 0-2
fashion. Don't know if anyone had higher hopes for them because i never
really seen anyone discuss them but that is how they've come into this for
me.
Vitality vs Tenstar
the first map was vitality's icebox and in an amazing upset Tenstar manages
to take the lead after this map with a 13-9 victory.
tbh it seemed like both teams had a fairly limited playbook, but it was by
no means a bad game. A lot of great midround calls as well as individual
feats from both side - but Vitality picked reyna so there was no way they
can win Β―_(γ)_/Β―
.
then we saw bind and what a show that was from tenstar! they had tons of
set plays and were even mostly outaiming the vitality players. also the way
they were controlling the pace of the game on attack was great.
once they got a spike plant the round was basically over and they knew
exactly how and when to push and when to fall back. We didn't see a lot of
their defence (3 rounds) but from what they've shown it seemed to be solid
as well.
a great game, Tenstar clearly was prepared and were looking sharp that day.
Case vs Tenstar
oh boy throw it all out the window. whatever i said. just cut it in post
or something...
bind, the one they beat vitality 13-2 on? non-existent.
Tenstar couldn't take space anywhere and while in game one they
looked as coordinated as optic, in this one it was all so disjointed.
solo peeking, missing easy kills, poor positioning, poor util - it was all
that combined that led to the 3-13 result here.
.
oh my... the haven game lol.
the amount of absurd and stupidity from both sides on this map is
astounding - but tenstar definitely takes the cake. and round 19 was the
cherry on top, pls don't check out any vods to see it - you'll regret.
worst pro map i've ever seen and i refuse to elaborate. there was nothing
to praise about this one maybe except for maniek still hitting shots?
Tenstar vs Vitality(2)
Breeze had us start with a poor defence half from tenstar and the comeback
attempt on attack turning out to be unsuccesful.
not much i can say here except Stix deserves some reward for this game, he
was amazing. Unfortunately the defensive plan of Tenstar got read and
clearly countered.
on bind we saw two different versions of tenstar - one from their first
vitality matchup and another from the game vs case.
on attack they were world class, just like the first time around but on
defence? vitality came back from a 2-11 to a 13-11 with how awful tenstars
defending was. We didn't even get a clutch or something to secure the 12
point, just nothing going their way.
ultimately this game shows that tenstar might have the DRX syndrome, they
are great on attack but once we come to the defence you can see it's lacking
Schalke maybe?
eh not too hype for l1nk tbh but we'll see. maybe he truly was just not comfotable with his role on liquid and will be a beast now.
ahh shit man you got me, the only reason i made this post was to capitalize the L.
ok ima go die now, byeee!
again, a long one so beware, TL;DR right below
also, i know no one asked but i'm bored so fuck the haters.
TL;DR
Falcons has some cracked aimers but aim is not all. They are unable to
adapt to their opponents if their initial gameplan doesn't work - not to
mention the gameplan itself is often poor. and for the love of god stop
with the freaky comps if you clearly have nothing special planned for them.
Falcons coming into this tournament, had no real expectations from the
valorant fans it seems like. as winners of the MENA region they were pretty
much expected to go out quickly.
Falcons vs Angry Titans
First we went to haven, Falcons map, where it seemed like most rounds
came down to crazy solo plays. it was also like AT didn't really have a
plan going into it.
utimately Falcons had no issues with securing the map getting themselves
a comfy 13-5 victory with the help of Alvar's and Outlaw's regular
multikills.
on Bind althought the scoreline was close, in-game it seemed very one
sided for the most part.
After a slow start Angry titans started playing better and better as
Bipo, initially dying after each tp, started to get a ton of value
from his yoru wich falcons failed to adapt to. Also whenever their
initial plans would fail they would get lost in the round veeery quickly.
and with a 8-13 scoreline the map was over as Falcons showed that their
midrounding and general adaptation to the opponent might be an issue.
Breeze... breeze oh breeze... Falcons pulled out a jett+reyna is all i
have to say. fix your comp or ban the map pls.
Overall while looking sharp aim-wise Falcons couldn't match their
opponents gameplan nor could they adapt well enough to counter it.
FUT vs Falcons
we go onto ascent picked by... Falcons? yup, that's right! our pals from
MENA tried challenging Turkey on their homeground... 13-4 for FUT, not much
to say here.
now on Bind, FUT's map pick, Falcons had a savior called Spy - but his
heroics were not enough as it still ended in a 13-6 win for FUT. Also
they picked neon for seemingly no reason, what's with the comps???
simply outclassed on every level is all i can say, there were no redeeming
qualities for them here.
player thoughts
Alvar: a very good player, aim-wise at least.
Outlaw: a solid player with good awareness and util
Spy: had one crazy good map, the rest was pretty meh. maybe his
haven vs AT was fine as well?
Fr4nky: didn't show anything special.
moh: had a few good rounds but overall not much to say here.
it's a long one so i'll provide a TL;DR
TL;DR
while excel's deafult heavy style worked well vs case's aggression and bravery,
they were unable to stay focused and lost due to several bad individual
performances and many questionable decisions. against vitality the team just
seemed disconnected, rarely playing well off of each other leading to their failure
and early exit from the tournament.
they have a lot to work on if they wanna be a T1 team
In a suprising turn of events Excel is the first team to go out of the VRL finals.
Now they came in as the winners of VRL north and probably as one of the
best teams on paper, so how and why did they go out as the first team?
case vs Excel
this game first took us to ascent - Case's map pick. while Case's very agressive and reliant-on-duels style
is flashy, it was clear that XL was prepared for this map. they knew exactly how to contain their opponents
aggression, they were very passive on defence sticking together, trading and playing off of each other.
just good valorant, not much here to highlight.
as Haven rolled around, things were looking great with an 8-4 attacking half, and although wolfen started
popping off and got some mad kills - Excel handled it well. defence is where the trouble began tho'
Here first thing they failed to do was adapt.
almost every single round Case had full A lobby control by just putting wolfen there and if XL ever
peeked him, they did it 1 by 1. Alive struggling to win fights on jett across the whole map didn't help
and ultimately Case pull off the comeback and win 13-10.
well gg go next.
Icebox started off well as excel took a 5-1 lead on attack but then it all crumbled and the half ended
6-6. and since icebox is an attacker sided map case took the game with a pretty comfy 13-8 scoreline
with XL looking very uninspiring.
On this map Moe and Foxie were basically non-existent, while foxie as an IGL can be excused, Moe's
performance in this series should be unacceptable as it quite possibly lost them the game. Alive also
seemed a little out of place sometimes.
notice how i said nothing about patitek and chiwawa? well it's because these two been stellar on all
3 maps and played very well. no issues there.
Excel vs Vitality
Haven (Excel's pick) was full of weird solo plays and crazy chaotic rounds. Excel seemed to have
never had any control over the game during this map and ultimately lost 10-13.
some moments worth noting are: Moe on the sova solo holding A long or Patitek dying 20 seconds
into the round bc of pushing short as a Breach (wich also led to an unsuccesful retake later, as they
had basically no util for it). it felt like there was a general disconnect between the players during this
map, often not playing off of each other and the util provided - but Vitality liked to return the favor and
throw some rounds of their own.
Ascent was next and XL definitely had a chance after their good performance vs Case 2 days ago.
after a close game they however go out of the tourney losing 12-14 on their opponents map pick.
Here we saw a repeat of their issues from map one as the solo peeks and weird decisions continued.
Notably Chiwawa pushing a smoke in a 5v4 as Vitality was executing onto the site. Also their A postplants
were horrendous for some reason, leading to them losing i think 2 anti-eco rounds, correct me if i'm wrong.
my biggest conclusion from this map however is that chiwawa on sage is a bad fit.
individual player thoughts
Patitek and Chiwawa: one summary for both of those - they still got it. Chiwawa shouldn't play sage tho'
Alive: please take him off the jett, the amount of times he dashes forward on accident alone is awfully huge
for a player at this level and enough of a reason to move him onto a chamber or raze/neon
Foxie: Foxie has been playing well but also didn't shine too much during this tourney, hoped to see more from him.
Moe40: not sure if he should have a place on the roster tbh. he was horrible. definitely didn't bring in too much individually and his util usage wasn't anything special.
no? the guard fell off after weeks of prep, cloud9 literally had player changes mid tournament. how smool is your brain?
different story, C9 had a sudden roster change and had to readjust roles and strats. the guard simply dropped off, not comparable at all.
let'go tenstar!
tenZ > Zellsis > Trent > Sayaplayer > Dapr > Net > Valyn > Ratzam > JonahP > Shroud
at the end of the day tho the strats might matter more that individuals
oh no wait, it's NA. what's strats? I guess only optic knows.