Bro snuck in names like Rossy

Bruv, Shazam>>>him

Imo its less "best fraggers" and more "best players in their role with no prior connection possibly"

Like just take an example: U put in Yay (chamber), Tenz (entry), Marved (smokes), Trent (initiator) and some best at their craft IGL and it would be a super team based on the individuals themselves cuz they are best at their job

Nah, its good if they keep Shaz, just not as IGL

Switch him over to the OP role, there's not many as good as him, especially now that cryo and yay have been signed
Tenz is the entry, get zellsis back and a smokes player that can IGL, ez for sen

1013

iron 3, plat 3

Idk mayn, I personally think that Shaz is a WAY better OP than Tenz and if he were to make that role switch, him playing ranked all day wouldn't even hurt him in matches cuz he would just be training his aim against ranked demons (him playing so much ranked is probably the reason he is one of, if not the best, IGLs mechanics wise, but it also shows in the "Cut noise, re hit" calls)

Would like to know, how many people here would be actually okay with Shaz just not IGLing but still being on a team as a secondary duelist/op since he is mechanically insane and has shown that time and time again (even in LCQ)
People like Babybay consider his OP to be one of the most annoying, Yay has said that Chamber would fit Shaz but IGLing on him is hard etc. etc.

Sen Roster could look like thIs: A smoke IGL (Valyn/zander etc.), Shaz Chamber/OP, Tenz entry, Zellsis primary initiator and Dapr Secondary Initiator/Anchor

Idk, hope its forgive and forget but I doubt it

U can still forgive someone but not forget what they did and considering it was pretty bad comments about kyedae, I don't think its easily forgettable

Tenz and Marved got beef due to Marved creepy comments about kyedae, so SEN prolly won't be bringing him in cuz Team Chem

Iceland flashbacks

I don't wanna be that guy but Imma be that guy: How is mistic still on the team? Especially when they have dropped arguably better players from the team (those worked out tho so there's that)

Optic and PRX are my top 2 rn

Let jamppi make it to playoffs first lil bro

PRX
SEN
100T
FNATIC
OPTIC

100t and Xset beat EU teams but OPTIC can't somehow lmfao
Actually cursed

His IGLing was perfectly fine and even won them a lot of rounds (especially on that one SR fracture map)

The only thing he MAYBE needs to do is call more rotates instead of silence -> rehit but thats about it

Teams still haven't figured out how to make him work and its very weird

Use him as a regular duelist and ignore the gimicky shtick and it works
Ig cuz he has a very high skill ceiling but also a very low floor

Optic pulls out a yoru

Sen was good

Eh, zombs isn't known as the best IGL in NA lol

Raze boombot and fade util etc. breaking trips is so dumb tho imo
KJ bot doesn't get triggered on em, chamber trip doesn't, y only cypher

W jinx

Tbf different coaching staff too, they could have had the MOST INSANE players but won't accomplish much in the later meta cuz of that
(Looking at u, SEN)

Nah, just basically looking at em. Sen played FAR better than C9 this tourney and how faze played against guard, based on pure match by match basis ofc

That is why I specifically said that if sick also bootcamped. Sick needed practice on smokes, and the bootcamp would have given him all of it
No one can disagree that Sick is a FAR better player than Shroud (not even Shroud's fault tbh, sick is one of the best valo players in general)
Also, I do not think zellsis should go anywhere. He is BY FAR sen's best addition, and fits phenomenally within the team.

Yeah, seems likely. I would argue a world where they could have even won the entire thing had they bootcamped with this same roster but sick instead of shroud.

Logic would be because both teams they lost to in CLOSE fashion effortlessly beat the others 2-0 and are 2 of the top 3

There is 0% chance sen of all teams don't make franchising lol

They are the single biggest valo team in the entire scene

Literally just sick back in and they are good, this is NOT a roster problem at all lol
This wasn't even that bad, they played well for like 3 weeks of practice

Cuz he did, against SR

This the first map this LCQ they looking like tenz and friends and they picked the worst time for it

Fire whoever came up with this comp for haven wtf
Either shaz on jett or zellsis on raze/neon and u fix it

Read this a while back where these two ere being compared to death but this highkey makes a lot of sense,
"Yay is a nightmare to enter against, tenz is a nightmare to hold against"

Even yay said that shaz would be a better chamber than tenz cuz of his "passive" style but IGLing is tough on chamber.

Poor guy got shat on for a couple bad performances but otherwise, he has had HUGE calls, impact frags and is one of the few IGLs who manages to frag out while calling too. The lack of support and shaz having to do a coach's, analyst's and an IGL's job all at once was just showing at this late in the game.

People need to chill on him

CHECK HIM PC

Meme Org 2-1 Hoodie Org

Tbf he is the LAST person to be talking about overpeeking lmao

"no need for teamwork when u have ppl like bdog on ur team"
Tell me y then SR lost the match 2-0 today despite bdog dropping near 40 on one map alone lol

That mid to A call was gigabrain
IGL diff

Ascent is phoenix's best map tbf, these buffs are REALLY great
His ult is the second best in the game rn so he good

Bruh I m convinced VLR has a grudge against him
Man played his heart out, had great clutches, some great calls too but still gets shit on for whatever reason
The plant could have been a practiced thing to farm viper orbs but it didn't work out, chill

Yoru (cuz gold elo, self sufficient against ops, setups and anything in-between tbh)

Neon, especially after the buffs

I saw on twitter, tenz on chamber FINALLY

What comp were they running?

They NEED to stop overheating and they WILL be the best team in the world at this rate
The amount of rounds they threw by being out of control was wild lmao (Still super fun to watch tho)

idk if u saw the stuff OTV and co arranged, but stuff like that would be pretty fun

For example, for one of them, tenz and tarik both got a team each with all members blindfolded and both of them had to guide them to win in a spike rush

He is a stats wiz so he probably the most experienced in analytic stuff they have signed

I feel like FPX's bind comp is really, really good against prx's yoru comp, the kay oh and fade especially
If they close this out, prx's bind might have a match

I m pretty sure they are disbanding after this year anyways, no? So franchising or not, they not playing as this team after champs