Exactly. Holy shit people are beginning to understand now. Lmfao.

Alright heres the proof and evidence:
OpTic winning Masters 2022 https://www.vlr.gg/event/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k

SEN winning Masters 2024 https://www.vlr.gg/event/1921/champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid

Compare and contrast. Use common sense please. Point proven.

Hint: Look at the brackets

Tenz and Sacy has 2 trophies. You're right.

Time will tell. Idc about the Org, I just care about the players tbh. New team, but if I recall 2 of them have a Champions trophy and the others Masters. Sacy and Tenz have a real trophy, let me know when the other 3 get a real one.

Ok so EG has a Champions trophy and SEN doesn't so EG > SEN?
Yeah, make it make sense kid.

OpTic core atleast were consistent so wouldn't you agree they were atleast solid based players to reach finals? SEN on other hands was a new roster, new meta, playing against other new rosters. Im not hating on SEN, I'm just saying if other teams had more time to develop and had more games with their new rosters, Madrid outcome would've been different. Thats all

People forget they played GENG in the finals and PRX without Jing lmfao

Thats why the 1st Masters isn't really a big deal. Thanks for proving your point lmfao

You didn't understand a single thing lmfao. Re-read what the main point was. Also new NRG roster = new NRG. Idgaf about FNS and Ardiss they were both horrible, besides S0m.

No shit because NRG LEV FUT PRX and other better teams didnt know the comps/meta as well + roster changes and lost to single elimination. LEV 2-0 SEN right now proves who the better team is if given more time dumb fuck.

My boys got 1 from Champions and Masters. Other than Tenz and Sacy, let me know when the other 3 gets a non mickey mouse trophy.

My boys got 1 from Champions and Masters. Other than Tenz and Sacy, let me know when the other 3 gets a non mickey mouse trophy.

The only reason why SEN won Masters Madrid is because they played Sunset, Split, and Lotus the most in KICKOFFS and MASTERS and they had the comps/meta down before other teams.

If there weren't Single Elimination and other teams had more time and chance to play more during KICKOFFS, more teams could've proven their worth.
Proof:

NRG > LOUD
FUT > KC
VIT > TH
PRX > GENG
LEV > SEN

Just facts. Mickey Mouse Masters Madrid + Zekken best duelist in the world? Lmfaooo

Lets be realistic here then, SEN won't win another Masters or Champions this year.

delusional ass bot confirmed

Demon1 diffed Aspas in INTERNATIONAL LAN @ CHAMPIONS = #1
Aspas dominating SEN = #2

only 2021 yea.
now Tenz goes 18-29 and Zekken("best duelist in the world") goes 20-32

Yeah TH lost too I forgot about that

Tenz 18-29 and Zekken 20-32, yea stfu u dumb fuck

Aspas - Michael Jordan
Marved - Kobe Bryant
Demon1 - Lebron James
Jawgemo - Dwyane Wade
Less - Shaquille O'Neal
Forsaken - Allen Iverson
Mako - Tim Duncan
Ethan - Steph Curry
Johnqt - Magic Johnson

Tekken - Choke City

Zellsis and Johnqt are the only good and solid players on SEN. Been saying this since the new roster change.

Imagine if Aspas had 4 better teammates lol SEN getting owned 1v5 and they won Masters Madrid, hilarious.

Johnqt and Zellsis are the only main solid good players on SEN. Facts. The rest are frauds and will choke like Zekken.

SEN Masters Madrid winners and losing to Aspas 1v5

If other teams had more time, Madrid would've looked different for sure.

Proof:

LOUD got destroyed by NRG(Masterclass)
KC lost to FUT(Looking very good tbh)
GENG lost to PRX(Jing diff obviously)
TH lose to VIT as well
and SEN getting wrecked by LEV(Tekken choking)

Aspas >>>>> Zekken 100%

He will choke as I've said before. He always did against better players/teams while he was in XSET and same with SEN before Masters Madrid.

Facts

If G2 loses to C9, its better if OXG Moist or M80 just replace G2.
Trent needs to join a better team and get off G2 please, same with Leaf.

Bro cannot play Raze for his life

Bro cannot play Raze for his life

Jonah Valyn Icy SUCK ASS LOL
Save TRENT and LEAF
G2 FRAUD let Shahzam play at this point tbh

He makes bad decisions and dies like a fucking noob, with aim or without.

SAVE TRENT

This guys level of gameplay is always borderline T2 Ascension and T1.
Overcooking so much and can't aim for shit. Next in line to get cut since Net is out.

100T Sinatraa replacing Asuna is THE SOLUTION.
Agree VLR?

PRX GENG DRX

Carpe and iZu trash. Saya also washed.

and Viper

Americas: Marved, Demon1, Aspas

EMEA: Leo, Alfajer, cNed

APAC: Karon, Meteor, Forsaken

CHINA: Kangkang, Chichoo, Life

Name the 3 BEST players from each REGION

Americas:

EMEA:

APAC:

CHINA:

Stew > DRX + T1

damn Bleed is that bad? lol
RIP Yay

Who would win? and who would be the upmost worst?

Americas: MIBR, FUR

EMEA: KOI, GIANTX

APAC: Global Esports, Team Secret, BLEED(just added due to popular vote)

(Lets leave China out of this one)

Champion: ?
Loser of all losers: ?

I think hes really good too, we'll see

Winner right here.

1. cNed
2. Alfajer
3. yetujay
4. Elite
5. ?

Who takes the honorary 5th spot as best Top5 best Turkish player in the world?

Tbh I think thats the one and only map hes good at LOL

There's no one in NA that plays a better Viper and Cypher than nAts besides Marved and Johnqt bro.

NZR >>>> c0m but that's a sick roster