Yeah but saying they should just retire as a random vlr users and and as a well known figure in the community are different things. Also, it's quite bit ironic that he implies tenz/shahz are not deserving, doesn't work hard when he would be jobless if people didn't feed him info.

Please No. Don't force anyone to be IGL, it doesn't work that way.

Always knew he has agendas against these two.

Get a room you two

I don't feel like they would and also hope that tenz wants to stay. TenZ, zekken & co. could deal some serious damage in VCT.

Your baits are getting worse by the day. Do better smh.

Sykko- Really love how well spoken sykko is. The type of guy you listen when he talks, man demands respect. We needed someone like that who has authority over his players and also can be friendly.
Kaplan- Love the fact that he has a psychology degree and has experience in CS as an IGL and a player. Seemed like he has a vision for the game.
I really like this duo and like their vibe. They seemed motivated but not too carried away. Exciting times.

Doesn't necessarily mean they will get players from both those teams tbf

How is it about 'marved matchfixer' narrative? Sorry if I failed to explain it but It seems pretty clear to me that opTic's greed and how it is endangering Marveds' career is at issue here!

idc honestly but people who rely on ad hominem to make their argument are boring.

That's what I am saying. Whether we want to believe it or not, well run businesses(orgs) are gonna assess the possibility and the risk that comes with it so naturally the are gonna be reluctant to pay a massive buyout. cz that's instant money, salary is week to week and you can just release the player if any damning info ever surfaces.

That's your opinion but I am talking about reality. You said I lack reading comprehension when you didn't even read what I said and misinterpreted the whole point.

No sponsors will revoke their sponsorship because of hiring Marved.

I never said sponsors will back out if a team signs marved. I said they will back out if he is ever proven guilty. If there's a 1% chance of him being guilty, companies are still gonna assess that. Which means teams are gonna be reluctant to pay a massive buyout not that they don't sign him.

Imagine if marved has to sit this one out because of OpTic's greed!

you read this line and think I am against signing him? I just think it's not realistic for OpTic to ask for a massive buyout and it harms his chances. That's the whole point, not if he is guilty or not.

wdym yes? You are actually such a weirdo!

What is it that you find so hard to believe? Did I say he is guilty? There are allegation about him matchfixing, he has a buyout, Orgs+ RIOT do care about these stuff, these are all truths.

RIOT is trying to do everything to have a clean image with valorant, what makes you think they wouldn't give a shit about matchfixing? I am not saying marved is guilty or anything but RIOT is definitely gonna care if it ever comes true.

you said i made it up. He has throwing allegations and OpTic is asking for a buyout, these are literally facts! You are telling me businesses with sponsorship deals and money on the line don't care about this stuff?

Yes I am the one responsible for those allegations. Smart vlr user.

Still point stands. He has to leave his school and parents. I don't think his parents or even him is gonna allow that since he is already wanted by teams in NA.

Even though he is arguably the best controller NA, teams would still hesitate to pay a massive buyout for him just bcz his past and the allegations that looms over him. Let's say ESIC comes out of nowhere with some damning information and now his team is in utter shit cz they can't sign someone outside of transfer window, they have to make do with their 6th man.
XSET has finally let their players pursue other teams as unrestricted FAs, why can't OpTic do the same? Imagine if marved has to sit this one out because of OpTic's greed! They got him for free, it's not like they have to make return on their investment.

True. Zekken's parents prioritize his study. No way he is gonna leave his school in the US and go play in India. Also, he is just a 17yo kid who lives with his parents. Gotta be Ayrin

Do you mean health problems? I don't think his health problems hinder him in-game anyway.

I mean being calm and collected is a mental thing, no? Overheating is a mental thing imo. For instance, you peak first and die in a bad place, that's stupid, you get 3 and die hunting the 4th one that's overheat and that's what TenZ does most of the time. Also, tenz has one of the highest k:d ratio so he isn't giving away advantage that often. Challengers 2 playoffs was a bad period tbf, tenz was sick in 2 matches and SicK left mid tournament, only map they won was when tenz dropped 40. That's tough.

C9 would have been an actual super team if that happened.

When did he admit that? Overheating is a mental issue not a tactical one. TenZ dies a lot when he tries to do it all and feels the pressure that he has to do something crazy and I understand why feels the need to do that at times but other times he pushes the boundaries.

People think TenZ doesn't have good game sense and need to be babysit which is furthest from the truth. TenZ's problem isn't on the server, it's outside mostly his mental. Coaches can help with that imo.

I get the feeling that he could IGL if he tried.

Insane initiator and brings good energy and apparently no franchise team is still offering him the bag! Idk if he would be comfortable on IGL but if he is I would take him at SEN in an instance.

BcJ (IGL)
zekken
TenZ
dapr
Marved

Run it back. GG to all the other teams.

What are you gonna do? choke me?

Bro hasn't even played a ranked game in like a week 😭I wonder how he is holding up amidst all these rumors and uncertainty.

Ofc they haven't announced yet cz nothing is done and dusted. If we only talk about official stuff only during a transfer season then we would have to still speculate about yay lol.

Why are you raging? If you read the whole post then you would have understood very clearly that the rumor is he FA soon and nothing stops him from pursuing a better contract somewhere else.

How good is his english? Is he proficient or just good enough for comms? If marved has a buyout that SEN doesn't wanna pay then I would take him in a heartbeat. He is FA too, right?

Imma be honest, not familiar with their game!

Like did you not listen to this mf George saying TenZ is doing more harm than good, that he doesn't care and that tenz should get replaced by more deserving players. Tell me how can a mere reporter confidently say that without knowing insider info. I am not your enemy. I love TenZ but they are scapegoating him and SEN is actively trying to get rid of him. I am not saying it will 100p happen cz there still might be smart people at SEN but for now they are looking at Ardiis and some other BR duelists.

George has been talking with people at SEN and he said they feel the same way. Like this mf also said TenZ is doing more harm than good, that he doesn't care and that tenz should get replaced by more deserving players. Tell me how can a mere reporter confidently say that without knowing insider info. I am not your enemy. I love TenZ

it's not. https://youtu.be/cHOiLKAP3Xs?t=4407

You think I care? TenZ is literally my most favorite player and I have said that he rarely streams and makes content so it's unfortunate that the team got a bad rep and he has to suffer for it!

https://youtu.be/cHOiLKAP3Xs?t=4407

you're weird bruh hopefully you realize none of this is set in stone.
That's why I said until they come to their senses. I don't have that narrative, are you even reading? It's the public opinion and public opinion matters. Alright man believe whatever you want to believe but don't call me weird when you cam at me first.

But they are not building around TenZ and that's the truth. SEN is trying tp change the public perception. Until their management come to their senses, this is the sad truth.

No, the angle they are getting at is that they are a serious org who wanna win so they are getting rid of the stream team. Ik it's dumb but it is what it is and I would hate SEN for it. I hope tenz doesn't got full CC cz if he is in ascension with a competent squad and proves everyone wrong that would make so happy! Fuck SEN btw

It looks bad to me? What do i have to do with anything. Think about it from a business perspective. I want TenZ to stay more than anyone. I would literally stop supporting this trash ass org for putting the players under the bus while they themselves are responsible for content driven culture, not signing a legit coach, not giving them bootcamps until the LCQ, making a PR signing etc.

idk man i hate SEN for it too. But you gotta understand when the ship goes down you go down too. I don't know how to explain this better. It looks bad if they get rid of 4/5 players and then don't get rid of the other guy.

SEN not practicing as much as the others isn't just vlr narrative. Whether they were unfortunate with circumstances or not there's truth to it.

It's bad PR cz SEN management believes it and wants to change the public perception. It's dumb but it is what it is.

no, not all of them. Some of them will get poached.

That too. TenZ's salary demand is too high also the bad PR thing that i mentioned. The prev roster are considered the bad apples even though SEN was the one pushing for content.

I have to say that the new revelations of LOUD falling apart and Sacy,pAncada being available for NA orgs has changed the equations slightly. So this roster isn't set on stones. I only feel 90%+ sure about zekken.

Not likely.