tenz jett vs primmie on Jett with both teams being good would have been a battle I would pay good money to watch.

One thing leads to another. Could be confidence, could be bad decision making, could be lack of communication but ultimately it causes bad chemistry.

It's not necessarily a bad thing. They have bad team chemistry right now so they leave gaps open and get caught on lurks way too many times. It's how it is and with deadlock comps and how they utilize the agent, I would tell all of them to be extra aware and make some individual plays. Because the team is not making good decisions collectively either way.

There are other Omen players that play a lot reserved. I understand that, On SEN , he or zekken has to try to make plays and create openings but still it feels like it's a net disadvantage for SEN to have one of the best duelers in the world to die in such unfortunate ways. Nowadays they even send zekken to do nose dives into 4 people and it's really sad. I wish SEN had at least another player who is comfortable taking any duel.

Not bait. He dies way too many times through smokes nad gets shot on the back. Obviously sometimes it's just unlucky but he's a player who is excited to do things. He talked about it too. He has ADHD but if he can calm himself down a bit and tries to play his own game sometimes in stead of trying to be a team player all the time, I think it will do his team a lot of good.

Most of the time he dies it feels like he has no chance. Spammed through the smoke, Gets killed from an angle that his teammate should have held, gets caught against lurkers and many other bullshit. You can watch the GenG game and you will know why I am saying this. People look at his stats and thinks wait why is he dying so many times? But if you watch the actual game, he barely loses a duel.

If I was his personal coach, I would just tell him to not trust his teammates with everything, just trust the intuition that someone has caught a timing and bait your teammates a bit more and play for trades. It sounds selfish but it will actually help SEN more. I can explain why.

he's contracted to talon until 2026!

The guy has unreal mechanics. At one point he had 21 kills on a senti agent and the next best on his team had 9 kills. If his team was a bit better they woulda won. He legit diffed aspas on duelists!

He's out of ideas

Comps ain't even bad. They just don't know how to play them

oh okay. I agree but i think rather than being impatient they skimped on doing their due diligence. Their default was bad. Like on Ascent, they were tryna throw B fakes with B main presence only but didn't even kill the kj alarm in pizza or have any A main control so how is that gonna work ever? You are in a choke and you haven't thinned them out anywhere. GenG have no reason to buy the fake. I don't understand how a pro team that won a trophy can be this lackluster. They must have noticed this but during the game it seems that they don't do their due diligent properly and just hopes for the best. But the game doesn't work like that against proper teams.

??? what does it have to do with anything? Players play bad or make individual mistakes and people criticize them , some people even hate them. Also, why do you need to generalize? How does that stop a SEN fan talking about macro level issues?

I don't understand how it contradicts what I said?

could be one, could be five. who knows? I'm just saying, It feels like they are trying to copy others when all they had to do was improve their play style and design comps according to that. SEN were getting read so they had to change comps and switch up here and there but you can't forget the fundamentals and can't forget how to play the game entirely.

nah he was right at that time. Nowadays we play like pussies and give the opponent too much control and they run circles around us with that space. Specially with double senti, you need space. If you give up both space and info then it's GG.

GenG didn't lose their identity. They still make plays of their intuitions and player strength. Whereas, we probably got shit on by M80 in a scrim and kaplan said cut that shit out and it feels like we threw our whole concept of how to play the game out of the window LMAO

yes defense was bad. I agree but we should have had a bigger buffer in attack. GenG is probably the best team itw and if the only way for us is up from here then I have confidence in this team making it to the next round. FPX could throw us a curveball but if we win that match comfortable, we should win against TH.

not even haven? I feel like it was closer than the score would suggest.

We need to talk about this. Remember during kickoff and madrid, FNS was praising SEN defense and how they don't rotate and leave gaps on their defense? But nowadays they have the most horrendous defense and gets lurked on every other round, even with a double senti comp! How did we get here? What changed?

Am I the only one who thinks SEN vs GenG was close? At least on haven, it was winnable for SEN. On attack, we threw the pistol that we should have never lost. Then we bounced back and for the last few rounds we started rushing B for some reason. That should have been a 7-5 half at least. On defense, we lost way too many clutches. For this reason only, I still have hope but ngl our map pool is not looking good. Am i just coping or what?

I feel that way too tbh

yeah cause I would even say they were on form today just didn't know how to play these maps and how to play against these comps. Like on haven we had no lobby control. we didn't break the kj util early this whole fkin game. It was just bad teamplay

Got diffed head to head but he would've had to do miracles to win us this game and that's not a good way to be consistent. We just look bad and got outclassed. We were hitting stacks and they we splitting on us as if we were dogs. That's just the team was shit

Which is even more r3tarded

it's sarcasm

The way SEN has played always is that their Jett needs to be a team player above anything else and needs to follow certain protocols according to the reads they have on the game. So, it's always been the case that when we lose, our Jett player( be it tenz or zekken) looks bad because they are the front of the spear. Today the team got absolutely decimated. GenG had better reads, better map control so they won. It wasn't even upto individual performance today cz even sacy was hitting shots today. We are just asscheeks without split, sunset and may be lotus/bind. We don't know/understand how to play these other maps. That's not on Zekken.

Yes this game was on TenZ. Good analyzation vlr chatter

calls were not the issue, it's the default that's bad. They need to break B and garage util and lobby more. GenG has better info

what? Intellectuals, casters, streamers, podcasters absolutely no one fkin rates us. Only the SEN fans talk about SEN and that's what bothers these pros. They want a piece of that attention. Boo me all you want, i am speaking the truth.

just woke up and saw SEN getting voted most overrated even though absolutely no one rates us except fans(which is to be expected). Pumped for once. Didn't have much expectation but want them to win so bad now. I just want them to prove all the haters wrong.

It was voted by the players. Those mfers are just jealous cz people don't care about them. It's all good

I swear we got the idea of playing double senti by scrimming M80 but we are not half as good at it, sadly. This must be so annoying for TSM!

Hear me out, SEN mada. 4 duelist x Jett players on this team playing different roles.

I agree. I said this once and people said I hate sacy and I am a fake fan so I ain't saying shit again. But it's a shooting game after all, if you can't shoot you are handicapped in many aspects specially in def. Because if you don't take the fight to them they will fight you on their terms with all the util in the world and at that point it's GG. Just watch the haven game against 100T. It's fked, we play defense like pussies cz we can't win a map control for shit

It's sad that the other guys still can't hold down the other site. Our defense is shambolic

Let him live bro. This is generational hating

not even 5th. he had the 3rd best rating

when did demon1 play controller as his primary role? TenZ has his most rounds on omen which is a controller agent.

Champs will be his best tournament yet. Just wait

People just think it makes the look smart if they berate TenZ and SEN cz they are popular. It's laughable honestly.

Yes, he deserves it.

And still he's not a sellout because he has morals? How is this a bad thing? People with voices should complain about injustices. That's why there are unions. You talk like a classic bootlicker. Oh I have done so much for you so you should demand less. Get the fk outta here with that shit bruh. He has himself to credit for his success otherwise you have the game installed on your computer too mr, Asokra, why aren't you tenz?

sorry wrong reply

They can smoke from anywhere without lineups, that makes them universal.

A multi billion dollar company that lied about sexual misconduct to save their public image doesn't care about their public image? You sure about that?

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2095/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2004/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1

"Played rather poorly" mf just say that you haven't been watching

cryo plays duelists more often. Who has more rounds on a controller agent?

yes they should have top of the Line PCS for the international events that have millions of people watching! How hard is it to understand? It;'s a billion dollar company that makes millions off of their esports. PCs that drop below 240fps on a 240hz monitor isn't acceptable.

It didn't say most 'versatile player' of the year, it said 'controller of the year' and Omen is a controller. TenZ doesn't choose who plays what?

valyn deserves the IGL of the year title for sure but 'controller of the YEAR'? over TenZ? That's just rigged