riens?

;-; ooooof

they have just under a 50% chance to make playoffs 3rd-6th seed, from there i'd say they win the play/in game and 1 of the other games 1/7 times which gives them abt a 7% chance of making champs

Bro really didn’t respond to me to say this 😭

GEO!!!! Smh

Go to your room!

again you are singling out the heretics games at Mercedes Benz games

G2 were never expected to get as far as they did, the idea they should be embarrassed for losing a rematch to Heretics after already far exceeding their expectations is bewildering. they should be proud of their performance at Shanghai

in 100T’s loss vs GenG they lost ONE more gun round than GenG did and lost every single 1v1 scenario on icebox (ascent idk) it was a very close series.

It’s completely accurate… they are tied in championship points with SEN at 9
SEN has to play NRG, G2, C9, and Kru, while 100T has 5 opponents(1 more chance to get a point) and has LOUD, Lev, EG, furia, and MIBR. Because of how hard group alpha is this split 100T is also primed to get a top 2 seed(which gives another championship point) meaning they’ll need to win 1 game in playoff to make champs and and if they don’t they’ll make it through championship points

LOUD
FNC/SEN
FNC

butterfly is a yakuza member?????????

nah u just take them all all the time so u can't differentiate

no no recreational drugs don't do this, this is hard drugs

cloudberry wtf man

i don't think he knows about championship points ngl
it explains both FNC and KC missing it (KC is the team with the next best chances of beating FNC, as they have 7 right now and have a chance to beat FNC which is +1 for them but is also -1 opportunity for FNC to get a point which is the bigger thing, they can impact FNC while the other teams with 6 in the other group can't)
and it explains 100T not making it, although SEN could qual through Champ points over 100T its unlikely due to 100T having an extra game and both teams opponents this split
Edit: added clarity to the impact of KC vs FNC

i'd say vitality making it and 100T missing it are bigger question marks than talon and especially trace

bro forgot the other 2 series vs G2, but still its 7-4

2 of their first 3 games being fut and Navi worries me though, those matches seem very unfavorable because of how early they are and then just 1 more loss to M8, koi, or giantX and they are out period

1. If you are going to talk this much, at Least be educated. 100T lost 13-1 on the final map not 13-2
2. Judging the final series instead of the tournament as a whole is dumb as hell. FNC, PRX, Lev, EDG all had embarrassing tournaments combined the 3 teams went 0-4 in playoff and they had title aspirations. Both 100T and G2 went 2-2 in playoffs only losing to 1st and 2nd place
3. You jumping from them getting embarrassed to 3rd-4th being a dream placement is diabolical, Yk there’s a middle ground right?
4. What does champs points have to do with masters Shanghai(beyond 1st getting points) riot tried to de-emphasize its impact on champs ? The most important part of this tourney for those 2 teams was getting their rookies in eeiu and icy experience, 100T still has an ~90% chance to make champs based off their champs points and G2 still controls their own destiny.

picked a lot sure, but hard meta definitely not

unless u mean lev getting 3rd and 4th isn't really embarassed

wat

wdym

Was gonna say
Have a good day bro

I think the exact opposite will happen to boaster, kickoff should’ve been a wake up call enough and if that didn’t get a positive reaction from him I doubt this will

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Thank you for your input

I could see it

For m8 it entirely depends on who kadvara replaces, with time they should become good if he replaces wailers but we have nothing official yet afaik

This ain’t 2021, but yeah TH very well could

C9 and m8 are definitely borderline yeah

Womp womp

no no no you don't understand.
stax left DRX because he didn't want to IGL(he hated it), he wouldn't be joining T1 if he was going to be igling

thats what it sounded like though, they were gonna "play with different combinations of 5 man rosters to see what worked on different maps" or something along those lines and 6 man rosters rarely function, and i already had t1 at like 17 before shanghai (they moved up bc of shanghai but picking up stax dropped them back down)

KORO!!!!!!!!

yeah in a bo3 which pacific are good at
losing a bo5 is inexcusable smh

wompity wompity
hru mortadelo

is it surprising for me or for VLR as a whole?

koro do u haves any other comments on my list :3

compared to liquid i think they are much better
there is a tier gap between them and secret as i see it.
I can't justify putting them above any teams besides T1 and EG

1. "Kru is literally just you making excuses on their lost. We can say the same about DRX (they are just unlucky to run into a inform PRX and Geng) or Talon or any other team."
   im not making excuses? i rate KRU higher vs the field, but in a h2h matchup i rate G2 higher because of the styles of teams, and then they lost a close game vs LEV who looked in their group stage form in that game, partly because they stumbled from the
   trying to compare DRX and Kru as the same when 1 had a massive roster change which i think will negatively impact the roster is crazy, especially since you have no idea how high i'd of rated DRX with Stax (i'd rate them between 6 and 10, similar to KRU)
2. RRQ were always hyped in VCT pacific i know, but that was the lmemore-flip-xffero core which is now dismantled only leaving xffero and lmemore who are both very quality players. fl1p was the 2nd worst starter last split with RRQ while monyet was a top controller player in pacific for a dysfunctional GE roster (using 2023 because thats when he played smokes not duelist) thats an immense upgrade. monyet also brings international experience with him, which is something the rest of the team lack.
   edit: xffero also has international experience, but it is only 2 games at champs 22, compared to monyet's 6 at madrid
   abt the unproven part, if a roster had a change it is unproven, so saying its unproven doesn't really mean much as for some teams i have to speculate a little bit
3. and if they did switch fate then i'd switch them, I think there's a huge perception difference between ending 4th and losing to the #1 and #2 teams than ending 6th and losing to the #3 and #4 teams. round differential means nothing on its own I agree but it means something with added context, and i think it helps show the difference in results.

bro that dude has a belorussian flag not an AMER flag

thank you bonody

"FNC still won Emea and they suddenly 13" they were around 17th for all of stage 1 groups to me, stepped up in playoffs sure(still required liquid, TH, and KC to choke for them to win it), then lost most if not all of their progress by bombing out at shanghai. i expect them to regress back to better than stage 1 groups but not by a lot(compared to their stage 1 playoff form)
"T1 also beat Geng but they are in 20?" did u even read what i said abt T1
"RRQ up are we seriously putting them on 8 because they beat Geng?" again, did u even read what i said, i already had them very high last stage
ru is nowhere near that high when they are basically Americas DRX(did well the regular split but lose both qualification game) again did u read what i said
"And for the first time i doubt loud. It doesn't matter how good saadhak is, without less and aspas this team is not top 10" brother Less is still on the team, LOUD came out and confirmed it
"Both PRX and 100t completely failed to meet expectations and yet only one of them "collapsed" and only one of them (PRX) have a history of one stinker tournament a seasobln" its the ways they lost, as it stands 100T had a fine tournament (2-2, +6 on rounds) and PRX had a bad tournament (1-2, -5 on rounds), if PRX beat 100T, i'd more or less switch where they are
DRX is at 16 because i don't trust their igling now that stax is gone, if they had a better caller than stax i think they would've switched off given how much stax hated it. every team above them will either oustrat them (KC [enghhh]) or out igl them (FNC [boaster]) with the exception of Lev who i could see moving down but they also have aspas

nothing, i just treat you like geospliced now
and i have so much time

im not either
but unlike me your time is worth enough for you to not bother

its nutorious pro why are u giving ur time
there's a 50% chance its an EU frog trying to make americas look worse

nah, acegamer vs asunayuuki was bigger and acegamer won

ah ok, I still wouldn't move them up but if moved above FNC i'd have no quarrel

it clearly is at the bottom, at the top it's not

i don't really think antistratting will do much to 100T
their first 3 matches are vs furia lev mibr
furia and mibr aren't good enough and lev should be in a similar boat where they are changing stuff around as 100T is