this was done to make champs more important than masters (i’m not saying it’s good, just saying why they did that)

emea ain't winning either boss man

that's even worse which is surprising, because i didn't know it could get worse

If a team that lost a half 12-0 to fucking furia wins a major, valorant esport is in shambles

That NA is not winning shanghai

they can’t have a second import

i always knew tyloo fans are intellectual

a team from group omega is not forced to go through wtf

There are groups and top 3 teams from each group will go
and 3 teams will then qual to shanghai
if one group is much better than the other, 3 teams from that group should qual to masters
there’s even a 2 win minimum to prevent the 0-5 teams to go through
“normal” group format still makes it possible for one group being much better than the other with the same amount of spots in playoffs
so unless you hate the traditional group format as well, i better not see you shit on this format when your teams doesn’t make it to china

EDIT: i am talking specifically about group stage
playoffs has single elim so the hate is reasonable

the best logo in all of VCT
proud to be their only fan

Group alpha is going to be a giant shit show with a sole exception of Gen G
True jail valorant incoming

aight it actually is i didn’t know (not my first language mb)
but the thing is it shouldn’t have been double elim
because Madrid was supposed to be small
thats the point of my thread that i linked
i guess we can agree on this

it’s even less fitting lol
but fluke is a good bait tho even i fell for it

i agree that it is not the best way of determining the best teams
i even say that in my thread
but you need to u need to understand the difference between a small event and a fluke event
shanghai win is going to be more meaningful than madrid and i think that was done on purpose
this event is smaller
but it is not a fluke

the first round of playoffs at split 1 is single elim
start typing the “shanghai is a fluke” thread now, save some work for later

read this
https://www.vlr.gg/313182/format-is-good
also you’re saying that a team that has gone through all the qualification and proceeded to win (doesn’t even have to be sen) doesn’t deserve the praise because the qual process was “unfair”
even if it is less “significant”, it’s still a masters win and it IS deserved
by your logic Shanghai is not going to be fair either because teams only play half of the other teams. there is a world where one group is way better than the other but a team doesn’t go even to playoffs because they are placed against other good teams (but a team from the other group that is clearly worse still goes through). and in addition the first round of playoffs is also single elim
by your logic lcq last year was unfair and all the teams that gone through it were flukers because first couple games were single elim
teams feel like they can lose BECAUSE there is a lower bracket
if the first geng sen game was already the final the game would have gone different because teams have everything to lose whereas before they have safety
if you’re incapable of winning a game that matters the MOST you are not becoming a world champion
so teams that got eliminated at kick off playoffs lost deservedly because it was all or nothing and everyone knew that
now stop the cope and enjoy the win of the team you claim you love

i feel like they reduced the number of games because teams were complaining about not getting a break last year
and as for teams that don’t qual and play little games now, rito clearly doesn’t care because no views

Rito actually made a decent format that suits the idea of each consecutive major being more significant than the previous

• Masters Madrid is full of underdogs which makes it more exciting but it also doesn’t feel like “the best of the best” are there because of the qual process
  Then we have the split 1 where teams play only half of the teams
• Masters Shanghai is an event that will see teams that are better in the mid stage -> still not perfect for selecting best teams but still rewarding the ones that start strong
• Champions teams will be selected based on results of both Split 1 and 2 so here is where actually “best of the best” will play
  So this way there is actually a difference between masters and champs unlike last year where 3/4 teams in each region automatically qualified to both masters and champs, which made them feel like basically the same event

that kick off winner gets 3 champs points
so even if TH or KC turns out to be a fluke they still get a huge leg up

no, the qualifier for Madrid is single elim

I think that rito made kick off single elim so that they can scale up the significance of each major as the season goes. So Madrid is cool but not the strongest teams, then Shanghai a bigger masters and then champs.
Also i bet they hoped for upsets so that there is a variety of teams across 3 events

i took that from liquipedia so maybe they just fucked it up

A
JD
Trace
FPX
Bilibili

B
DRG
TEC
Tyloo
Nova

C
EDG
All Gamers
Wolves

Edit: there’s a chance that this is wrong as #4 pointed out. This is taken from liquipedia but i guess they messed it up