thats respectful, loud do look more like a complete team than the rookies on mibr, and kru is debatable. but for the fact that kru did go farther and came back from the initial loss, that gives them the slight edge over loud. i understand your point on dgzin, but even then, zekken's 1v4 ace vs loud alone had more impact than any of dgzin's plays. sen might not have qualified had zekken not stepped up. now thinking about it, i agree that g2 really dominated the tournament disregarding the final match, but i feel like looking how sen did before the mibr game underplays the "evolution" they went under. the sen team you are talking about is not the same we saw in their past matches. i do agree now that g2's roster should just be in the top 10, but still think zekken or johnqt should at least be in the top 5.