GROUP D WAS SO GOOD MAN

I hope you guys don't lose before grand finals since that's the only time i wanna meet you guys

12.9 rounds per map and didn't make it out of groups

Like for every team in lowers?

Last time they lost we saw what happened

I believe (if we were to lose today) that we would make that lower bracket run

WIN A FUCKING PISTOL AND NOT GET BLASTED

studying Fnatic

It's not over yet but if Loud wins we'll meet you in the grand finals don't worry

Funny how everyone was saying that Fnatic was gonna win but Less was gonna diff Alfa and the complete opposite happened in game 1

but i truly believe these 2 teams will be making grand finals

So many close rounds damn what a game

Yeah I called that map veto
Was obvious

Loud is looking good so it's gonna be a close one

All 4 regions in top 4?

Yeah
Fnatic will be picking Lotus/Fracture depending on which one gets banned by Loud
Also don't see Loud picking Bind over Ascent or Haven.

My prediction would be
Fnatic guaranteed Pearl ban
Loud pick: Haven/Ascent
Fnatic pick: Fracture/Lotus
Decider: Bind/Split/(Haven/Ascent)

But damn Fnatic is just sublime on all 6 of those maps whereas Loud is kinda meh on Lotus and Fracture unless they've cooked for Fracture.

Short answer not at all (yet)
EG had the easiest group in recent memory with 2 out of the bottom 3-4 teams at the tournament (Fpx and T1) so making it out of that group doesn't mean they've overcome the curse.

Will the curse be lifted if they were to beat Edg?
Probably

Conclusion: EG will lose to EDG and the loser of Drx/Blg keeping the curse alive

All of the youngest teams have made playoffs
EDG
Loud
Drx
Fnatic
Paper Rex
EG
We don't know the average age of BLG and Fut is on average older than TL but that's the only team not on the list they're older than (don't know about Fpx tho).
https://www.thespike.gg/news/champions-2023-los-angeles-teams-average-age/5505

Lmao I've been a Fnatic fan since season 4 Worlds (League of Legends)
Don't talk bullshit

#alwaysfnatic lil bro
We got called chokers too many times at least let the real fans enjoy the W's
Also EMEA got disrespected too much so I kinda get bandwagoners as well

EMEA on top baby

So we already know what the most viewed game of playoffs is gonna be. Only downhill from there on out

True and unfortunately for Fpx they couldn't attend Reykjavik otherwise they could've been in the conversation as well.
Fpx was even better leading up to Reykjavik than they were leading up to Copenhagen so it was really unfortunate they couldn't attend because of things out of their control.

Masters reykjavik not allowed to attend while being the EMEA first seed
Masters Copenhagen winners
Champions 4th place

2021: Gambit
Masters reykjavik not qualified
Masters Berlin winner
Champions runner up

2022: Optic
Masters reykjavik winner
Master Copenhagen 3rd place
Champions runner up

2023: Fnatic
Lock/in winner
Masters Tokyo winner
Champions? Doesn't really matter since there's no team that can surpass them this year but it is for sure the most important tournament of the year but neither of the former teams have won it.

Fnatic 50%
Paper Rex 15%
EG 10%
Drx 7.5%
EDG 7.5%
Loud 7%
BLG 2%
Fut 1%

But easier said
Fnatic 50%
Rest of the field 50%

THIS IS NOT A JINX I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A JINX
Fnatic are NOT expected to win this event

It all starts with winning their own map pick which will be tough since it's gonna be one of Fnatic's best maps (Haven/Ascent) since I don't think they can beat Fnatic on Fracture/Lotus which will get picked by Fnatic (the other gets banned).
3rd map will most likely be Split or Bind which are great maps for both teams and could go either way.

If the youngsters show up Loud for sure have a shot (but still 50/50 if they all show up)
They're one of those teams that can be the best in the world on their day

Fnatic are getting 1.15-1.22 odds against Loud which is like 80-90 percent win chance

Bruh they're not playing some randoms to have that type of odds they're playing the defending world champions, the Americas champions, some of the best players in the entire world.

That being said Fnatic 2-0 (13-10, 13-7)

EDG themselves are owning scrims

Nah
Navi just need to learn how to play around cNed and they will be a top team again for sure
They only started to play their natural roles since Lcq and have already improved greatly
cNed looked improved on the Neon which is good and he used to play the sage for Acend as well just he just needs to add that KJ to his locker which shouldn't be too hard with the time he's got now!

Fnatic ban Pearl and are insane at Haven so if Loud picks it Fnatic will be happy with the veto for sure
Loud will pick Haven/Ascent which are good maps for Fnatic as well
Loud will ban Fracture or Lotus and the other wil get picked by Fnatic.

Map 3 will be Bind or split I suppose

So
Pearl permaban
Haven/Ascent
Lotus/Fracture
Split/Bind
As the 3 maps

He won't need to frag out with those 4 players on his team just needs to focus on his damn IGL'ing which has been kinda poor

Sayf duelist
Cloud initiator
Redgar IGL and smokes
nAts sentinel/Viper
Sheydos or Trexx flex
Edit: Sliggy coach (don't think he will tho with how successful he's been as a streamer but you never know because he's so passionate about the game)

You should ask yourself would Loud have beaten that Gambit roster?
My answer is no but Acend shouldn't have either but they just played out of their minds that whole tournament after their first game and the Cypher cam incident which also showed how mentally resilient they were during that tournament.
Conclusion I don't fucking know it's way closer than people think

If Liquid signs Cloud and Trexx/Sheydos instead of Jamppi and Soulcas they could possibly rival Fnatic

Man I would pay to see that roster

70/30 in favor of Fnatic and if Loud shows up I'd still say it's 60/40 in favor of Fnatic
But if there is as team that can actually beat Fnatic it's Loud without a doubt
They've got the experience, the firepower, the strats, the map pool to match Fnatic.

NRG getting more than 15 rounds v Fnatic would be an achievement

Team Liquid should break the bank for Cloud

Navi got owned?
The most they lost a map by was 2 rounds.

People saying this to cope with their favorite teams losing lmao

What happened to your Lcq teams at champs?
Yeah they got owned
EMEA easily has the best 4th and 5th seed out of all the regions and we saw that this champions.

People comparing Alfajer and Less based on their lock/in series lmao
Alfajer had just gone back from playing duelist in 2022 to sentinel at lock/in.
What has happened since then?
Alfajer has become the best Sentinel player and a top 2 player in the world next to his buddy Leo in between Lock/in and now

Let's not form an opinion based on something that has happened a few months back
Alfajer and Less are top 2 for sure but let's find out if Less can prove he still is nr. 1 or if Alfa has officially overtaken him this year!

Fnatic have a 80+ percent win chance according to bookmakers which is the same as they give Paper Rex v Fut.
I'm scared but excited let's get this W

Being real Nrg would not get more than 15 rounds against Fnatic

They've all learned from nAts

He's goated for that round

I'm pretty confident Zeta would've easily won Bind without the tech issues
They were running circles around the before the tech pause
But that was no one's fault obviously so it was a fair win for Nrg for sure

Fnatic is still 2 levels ahead of the competition

I thought he was gonna say if Fnatic doesn't win champs which would be somewhat reasonable.

But nah he needs to shut up
Optic/Envy didn't manage to beat an EMEA till the last tournament of 2022 how are they better than Fnatic?

They've been heavily disrespected so count me in

Is this about duelists only?

Derke is the best Jett-Raze player but Fnatic just don't play any other duelists
Pretty sure Alfajer can play every agent on a high level with ease

Russia is #1 in the world the other two not even top 5

Something (Derke could also choose to play for Russia)
Chronicle
Suygetsu/nAts
Shao
Redgar IGL

Trexx, Sheydos, Cloud not even needed

I thought you were asking current Fnatic v Loud 2022 xD
This is a silly question

I think they might replace Zyppan with someone like Trexx maybe