Fnatic at 1 tho

Would never happen here in Europe or any other region tbh

Rizztraining order

TKZ didn't deserve the punishment he got from Alex and Max

Fpx (Navi) v Drx is so one-sided but the one time Fpx won they actually won a trophy lmao

How hard is it to not fall in love with a random girl on the train?

Why would he swing and risk lining up with Derke
He had faith in Derke and himself to win if it came down to a 1v1 fight

Yeah I would give it to Leo as well but it's so damn close

Yeah Derke can be pretty hit or miss but you need that type of player to get you those important wins (Lock/in Icebox) but Chronicle is normally Mr. consistent so it kinda sucks he wasn't in his normal form this champions

Leo is so good that his performance this champions is considered bad while being a top 3 rated player

He is alive because that's his role lil bro

If Leo is alive = round ain't over

Both of them are so consistent and insane at their role

Will we finally see W gaming from Fnatic?

I truly hope so

Insane year from both of these guys so it will be very hard to decide who gets MVP between these 2 for 2023.

Even here at champions they've still got insanely good stats but not enough support from the rest of the team to win another trophy.

Who's about to win their first world championship?

Yeah Loud ain't NA they were representing Brazil

From here to world champions?

It was out of their hands though if 100T beats Mibr EG is out no matter what but they probably would've owned in Lcq and made champs

Neither teams have showed their Haven right?
It's unknown territory so I don't know if they wanna go there unless they've been cooking

Imo it's a better map for EG than Prx
So I think they're gonna ban Fracture and Haven but that being said they could throw a curveball and try to play EG on one of those maps.

Can't lie they're story is incredible but I like Paper Rex' story even more

They were 1-4 or something before Demon1 got subbed in so no they were not supposed to make playoffs
Don't forget Mibr beat 100T and that resulted in EG making playoffs

Ah ok then

They were not supposed to make playoffs
They were not supposed to make Tokyo/Champs
They were not supposed to make finals in Tokyo
They were not supposed to anywhere near an international trophy at the start of the year yet they are here 1 series away from becoming world champions.

They were the laughing stock of the Americas league now they're their only hope of getting an international trophy this year.

EG the team no one feared is 1 step away from eternal glory
Maybe it was all meant to be from the very beginning.

Real life > Movies and whoever wins tonight proves that once again.
Good luck to both teams!

NA they're not gonna give the same casters lower and grand finals

would be such sad ending to their beautiful story but this ain't a movie so it's in their own hands to bring it home for their region and for Jingg especially!

Good luck to both teams tonight that have had an incredible season so far!

Yeah because he sucked before this year right?
Lmao he was a super carry before this roster was built

Yeah that's why Optic beat Guild at the one tournament they won and beat Fpx the team that wasn't allowed to attend that event in the next one /s

Of all time with how hard they struggled against EMEA teams lmao

The only tournament they ever won was the one where the EMEA 1 seed wasn't allowed to attend I don't think that's a coincidence.

They lost every time they faced an EMEA team till the last tournament they ever played.

They wouldn't stand a chance against current Fnatic that is at least a level above all of those EMEA teams optic faced in 2022.

Yeah Fnatic kinda dropped the ball at champions but the rest of their year has been nothing but dominance while Optic always had a couple of losses during their runs.

Fnatic and it ain't close
People forgetting Loud bombed out of groups at masters and Optic not winning a single series against an EMEA team till the last tournament they ever played.

How can you call optic the best team when they struggled so hard against a region

If Ange1 drops 10 kills they're still winning with those 4 guys around him if he calls somewhat decently

That screams international trophies to me

He's not an oper though which would be the big concern but anyways it's not happening just a thought.

Nah bro that would be fucking insane man
No one beats them on pure aim anymore

Lol call him immediately

Imagine if Fnatic had done the same thing = Harbor/Viper comps on the maps it's good on like Pearl and Haven.
But unfortunately Fnatic won too much and got complacent

BO5 means no chance of a fluke win
BO3 you might have a stronghold on a map and fluke your way into another map win
BO5 you have to prove your superiority on basically half of the maps in rotation which shows who the better team is clearly.

Give me more BO5's even if that means single elimination I would take that trade-off

Game 5 incoming and Loud wins Bind as well

That's what I'm saying bro

If Fnatic had cooked up a new comp Loud wouldn't have been able to anti-strat them but since they didn't change anything at all Loud didn't have any trouble reading them like a book.
Meanwhile they had no time to anti-strat EG and also haven't played against these comps before so they can't read them as well

How much tape does Loud have on them?
Exactly these games at champs which is close to nothing

They changed their comps from Tokyo to now that's the cook they don't need to cook from day to day

Yeah they changed Fracture because that's the only map they lost (just incorporated the Sova)
And as you said they just used their old Bind comp but swapped Derke and Alfa

Fnatic looked lost this tournament but can't deny that EG and PRX would still be shaking in their boots if they had to face Fnatic

New comps lil bro

They have a different comp for Lotus, Pearl, Split and Bind and we haven't seen their Haven yet

Their Fracture and Ascent were already elite and didn't need any changes

NAVI was looking like the best Pearl team while playing comps that fit Fnatic perfectly
It's just excuses honestly

Faxx unfortunately

I hate asking this question but is Fnatic being held back by their coaching staff?

Potter cooked up new shit for 4 maps in between Tokyo and now while Fnatic is stil playing the same comps they were playing in 2011 and still haven't learned Pearl.

Eliminating EMEA and getting knocked the fuck out afterwards

Yeah 0 innovation

Exactly this
Look at EG they fucking looked shit on Bind and Lotus all year long but now look like one of the best in the world on those maps here at champs.

Their map pool was pretty weak in Tokyo (shit Lotus and Bind) but they've managed to fix those maps for champs in no time basically so GG's to them honestly and they changed their Split and Pearl comp as well!

in between Tokyo and now

Meanwhile Fnatic still hasn't found a way to play Pearl or change one of their comps

smh Fnatic could've won this shit easy if they had innovated even a tiny bit

Meanwhile Fnatic didn't manage to learn how to play Pearl all year long smh

EG fixed 4 of their maps in between Tokyo and now

Fnatic fucking dicked themselves by not innovating

Loud used all their breaks to study Fnatic obviously

They only looked elite against Fnatic

Fnatic would still beat Prx and EG for sure