Do NOT go, we dont want to lose you

I was looking at Eternal Fire's CS2 schedule (they have like 7 tournaments in the next 3 months), and I decided to check how many times certain teams/orgs have played officials in Valorant since franchising started (2023/ Lock//In), here are the numbers:

Team : Matches (Win/Loss)

Furia: 30 (10/20)
MIBR: 32 (11/21)
Loud: 51 (31/20)
DRX: 58 (38/20)
PRX: 59 (40/19)
FNATIC: 60 (45/15)

The team that played the most, has played 2,2 series per month.

If you take a look at G2 or Furia in CS2, they've played 160~ games each in the same period (6+ series/month).

While I think the CS teams do play too much, it makes no fucking sense how little valorant teams play (also the spacing between matches is terrible).

I think this system is really detrimental, because how teams like Furia, Global Esports, and some others that have such a few amount of games can improve if they dont get to play the game? How can players develop and be actually evaluated? This leads to situations like Verno's or Mada's where they train with a team for much longer than they compete for it.

It is also bad for sponsors, why pay for something that gets exposition 12 times in a year?

The usual responses that RIOT (mostly via Leo Faria) give to this problem is seriously LACKING imo, they are:

1. "People don't want to see losers, they want to see the good teams only"

First this is false, for example, japanese fans want to see DFM and Zeta, even if they are losing, they would rather watch that then PRX face DRX, Indian fans want to see Global Esports, BRs would rather see Furia than Cloud9 x NRG.

2. "Each game tells a history, we dont want to increase the amount of games and make people choose"

Could be Valid, but then they have China/Pacific happening at the same time often and this year EMEA and Americas also have matches that overlap., and I think there is so few hardcore Valorant watchers compared to ppl who are passionate about some orgs.

3. " We want the fans to miss valorant when its not on, we dont want to overwhelm them with how much valorant that is on"

This is complete bullshit imo, having to rely on that is a sign that you don't trust yoir product, and this also leads to a fucked up cicle where the level of play is pretty bad on the beggining of the year because... they havent played for ages.

When you combine this with visa issues, and franchise teams not being allowed to participate in other tournaments (tier2 and 3 tournaments, like KOI being a franchise team and also playing on spanish league as an example), it makes Valorant really stale, because we cant measure teams and players properly.

What are your guys thoughts on this?

He went there for Money, not for the game

It is because it is from Saudi , yes

Because it reminds them too much of home

Fnatic would never make a deal this good come true

Saudis do be wasting money on this ordeal, they should have invested in technology like Japan, or even music/tv like South Korea did instead, or come way earlier into play like the U.S. or France to consolidate themselves

But the EWC cares about their image and policing the behavior of others

They have to be maried

Has it been released?

That's like suggesting Riot hosting a tournament in Bangkok makes them a subsidiary of the Thai government?>

???

No, this is just me saying that the problem isn't the country directly financing the tournament, its that you have a problem with the country. It would not be adressed by having the danish Blast hold it in Saudi Arabia through a series incentives.

Ppl like Sideshow, that you mentioned, just use this argument to excuse themselves of facing the hypocrisy of saying that while working in the U.S. And when he refused to go to the Shanghai masters it was straight sinophobic imo.

Closest example I can give is CS, we are getting this year a IEM Major in Dallas, Intel get a shit ton of money/benefits from the US government, gonna host it in US Soil, and yet it would not get criticized, even if it was a Valorant tournament, because they hold the narrative, so they can't be accused of sportswashing.

ps: this not directly at you, as you demonstrated that you dont fuck with the us either

No correlation

If you've ever bought something, you've paid taxes

Like I said

She wont be there.

Probably most tier2 casters will jump at the opportunity to cast for a bigger audience while also probably getting paid more than they usually do

Americas:

1. 100T, expect them to be 1st on their group and then they just gotta win one game against NRG/Krü

2. G2, they are just the best team of Americas

3. MIBR, they have aspas and got rid of NZR

EMEA:

1. Vitality, will probably just bruteforce their way into it
2. Fnatic if Alfajer goes back to playing sentinels
3. KC, this is a bet but I'll never trust Liquid to qualify and I dont trust heretics rn either.

Pacific:

1. T1, I trust they will mantain a decent level
2. DRX, same, feels consistent
3. Talon, I think they might click

Dont know enough about china, but we all know EDG will be there

With the help of fellow vlr posters that made me notice that the problem with them having a tournament there is because it is directly funded by their government.

So all they gotta do is create a shell company to do so! Then they will be just like any other country that hosted Valorant tournaments so far.

China for an AD

Its not like anything interesting happens in VLR anyway, just the usual circlejerking and baiting

Damn this topic got me reading, and I found out immigrants are humans too and also have rights, its not just LGBTQIA+. Thank god we dont have tournaments happening in places where migrants are heavily mistreated, like separating children from their families, and thus also violating human rights. I'm sure we only have tournaments in places where they sign International treaties focused on human rights.

Esports always been and always will be a rich boys club

Never queue swiftplay with team voice on

You have to pay back loans

They did some fumbles last year, like not signing up to a tournament on time or something like that, and they had a pretty good team

Because some teams might play more than 1 series/month this year

I think its 16 teams

Well, short answer is because I wanted to, but the reasoning is because I dont know what rating takes into consideration, but I think it considers some redudant stats and ones that are not role appropriated. Assists as an example is a fraud stats in my book, specially when it comes to controllers (if someone goes through a smoke and die you get an assist), while a initiator getting an assist probably has more meaning.

all valorant stats are a bit trash anyway, ppl play 40 maps/year

As I stated in the observations, I know some things can't be measured (half of these players were also IGLing, as an example), but I feel like Tuyz is a lot like Khalil, but when it comes to Khalil everyone knows he has some great games and then goes unnoticed for a large number of them, when it comes to Tuyz, they tend to forget the lows.

I'm not big on Lukxo, and he is actually replacing Less, so it is a downgrade either way, but he wil prob perform better than Tuyz

I got stats from vlr and their only parameters are last 30, 90 days or all I think, would have to manually search or get data from somewhere else

yeah, they should've released him as soon as Pancada was avaiable

Ange1 dies a lot but he also does a considerable amount of damage

Water is wet kinda statement but it has to be made from time to time

I've seen some ppl defending him lately on twitter, even saying that Loud shouldn't have brought Pancada back to play smokes, saying that Tuyz was doing fine on controller, all because he won some 5 clutches in 2 years, so I decided to show you some stats.

Controller Average Stats for Brimstone + Astra + Omen + Harbor (all time):

Player - K/D ---- Average Damage per Round --- Rating 2.0 --- Kast

1. Pancada - 1.19 --- 134.2 --- 1.13 --- 76%
2. s0m - 1.16 --- 135.1 --- 1.11 --- 77%
3. Mako - 1.15 --- 135.0 --- 1.14 --- 78%
4. Ange1 - 1.14 --- 131.6 --- 0.98 --- 73%
5. Boo - 1.10 --- 126.6 --- 1.10 --- 75%
6. Khalil - 1.02 --- 118.0 --- 1.00 --- 75%
7. Melser - 1.00 --- 120.9 --- 0.99 --- 74%
8. Tuyz - 0.98 --- 115.5 --- 1.03 --- 75%
9. Mindfreak 0.98 --- 113.6 --- 0.94 --- 71%
10. Boaster 0.95 --- 113.1 ---- 0.95 --- 73%

Aspas' average just for fun (Jett + Raze + Reyna + Neon) all time:

KD: 1.32
ADR: 167.7
Rating 2.0: 1.23
Kast: 75%

Observations:

1. I know that stats don't tell everything, but they do tell a lot.
2. Most players haven't played harbor enough (only 5+ games with the agent got on the list)
3. Some pros got made or unmade by a specific agent performance (Ange1 has great stats on Astra, Mindfreak terrible stats on Harbor), because it was not an weighted average.
4. Tried to select players that went through different metas
5. Picked the stats that I think are more relevant

depends if the mods like it or not

he isnt

reported for politics

teams dont let people go whithout having someone in mind to replace them

Redragon Perdition 2

Yeah I think the main point would be having 5~ teams with the same "owner", but Riot is willing to let gamechangers teams play with teams of the same org

In light of the most recent visa-related issues (searching for a replacement for NZR and now MWzera being hard), I was trying to think what could be done to alleviate some of the current disadvantages that LATAM org faces, assuming RIOT won't move VCT Americas from the U.S. nor split the region (imo, best option).

The problem in case you aren't aware:

To participate in VCT, players and coaches have to get a working permit/visa, which I suppose is of the P-1 category (P-1: Individual or Team Athlete, or Member of an Entertainment Group-For applicants who are recognized athletes or members of an entertainment/sports group. They must perform at a specific athletic competition or entertainment performance. Includes persons providing essential services in support of the above individual.), and may take months to get done, as we've already seen a couple of times in these 2~ years of VCT Americas.

To make things worse, the work permit is not granted to the player, its granted to the player in relation with a team ( example: Aspas doesnt have a permit to play VCT Americas or Valorant in the U.S., he has a permit to play Valorant at VCT Americas for MIBR.), meaning Furia can't hire Tuyz ( if he ends up benched for Luk Xo) without him going through the whole visa process again.

With this in mind I was thinking, what if the 5 LATAM orgs that are partners (Kru, Lev, MIBR, Fur, Loud) created a company in the U.S., which the teams would be part of?

Lets call it ValSul. If that is possible, now when they hire a player, they could hire him to play for ValSul, and once the proccess is done, designate him to work on one of the affiliated teams, but if that player doesn't fit a team, he could still play in any of the other 4, as if he was moving from one sector of company to another, instead of moving jobs/companies.

Teams could even agree to hire 6 players each and thus have an entire reserve roster to pull talent from, and if RIOT allowed they could play challengers NA, even if its as an Academy ( but I dont think it is possible because they are hired for VCT Americas only).

But I dont know much about the legal and financial avaiability of that. Does anyone know if this is feasible?

The potential positives : Teams could replace "bad" or sick players easily. Potential "natank" situations could be avoided (even if he isnt south american, a player that moved regions and then found himself without a team in a short time).

The negatives: We would see even less new faces, as players would rotate between these 5 teams more often. Salaries would end up inflated since teams could now easily "pouch" players from other latam teams. It would open up a bit more space for shady business and orgs would be reluctant to trust each other and possibly have to share financial information/roster change info (ex: letting the other teams know they want to hire an specific up and comer) depending on how the company is set up.

RIOT Val could even do this (become the employee, expanding the possibilities of latam players to also join american teams), but there is no reason ($) for them to do it, besides maybe being granted bigger control over the orgs (making sure the money they pass to the orgs is being invested back in the teams).

What do you guys think about this "proposal"?

Thank you for coming to my TED talks.

ps: I know this isnt the optimal place to ask this, since its probably mostly kids around, but its kinda the only place for it also.

send me your PIX

The tournament, money, points, the dream

Tuyz is one of the bottom 10 players of the league

He has an european passport and is in the U.S. Latam teams cant get players there without MONTHS of preparation. VCT americas is completly fucked up

They cant both go to Toronto, unless G2 fumbles

They are playing Cs instead? Pretty obvious

In the slim chance your question is genuine, you could replace it, yes. The problem with calling someone a retard is that it uses a mentally disabled person's condition as a basis for offense.

But anyone can be an Idiot or a Moron as we can see everyday on VLR.