C9 will be 3rd at kickoff, 6th by shanghai

Their original teams in esports were NA.

i mean you're literally just wrong, i hope you don't consider urself a fan of the organization itself and actually think that. Let's say you don't count their start as a Brood War clan. Their first two professional players that they signed in SC2 were a German and Swedish player. They were a European team first, and an NA team second

YFP 100%

im just talking about the org itself, not valorant. you'd think a british person would be able to read english, but ur valorant match history indicates that you're clearly disabled

im underestimating LOUD, they replaced aspas with qck. thats like if G2 replaced trent with tigg

i dont even like the org i just like the team. they're definitely better than s0n tho

bro how do u even have back to back 1 tracker score games, thats crazy

i know u support him cuz he was on the guard but p0ppin says homophobic slurs

holy shit he is ASS

instead of letting bumcada play, they should let an affiliate team player who's actually good play instead.

im confused how is MxS already invited? they don't have a 3 man core from last year unless coaches count?

calling pearl garbage tier is so insane, it was actually good right before it good removed cuz you could finally win on pearl without playing harbor viper

lonzo was a good defender on the bulls, ur tripping. but i agree with how u rank the 4 players

Lonzo is practically disabled, he's physically handicapped at this point and his career is over. LaMelo is a good star but you can argue that he's just a good scorer on a bad team just like Cade. It's ridiculous to say Cade can't score 20 on a good team, he could probably do it even more often than on the Pistons. Cade is one of the most blitzed players in the NBA, iirc 2nd behind Luka because every other team knows hes the only offensive threat on the Pistons. Scottie is also amazing, you're tripping if you don't think he's good. LaMelo is better than both but everyone else from Chino Hills is ass. Moody is one Steve Kerr realization from being a 15+ minimum ppg starter. He's good, its just that Kerr hates developing young players.

Gelo was leading that team in ppg and became a g-leaguer 🤣

Cade n em clears so hard, you would have to be delusional to think 2016 Chino Hills was better

Montverde was beating better teams + that roster panned out better in the NBA

not having a subway sandwich on a top 5 sandwich list is a crime. even tho its more of a create your own sandwich kinda thing, thats what makes it #1

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great job mocking

ur fat

YFP for sure, pennygoat will be back on duelist

am i the only one that wants to see BuZz on flex/sentinel? He was so damn good during the Pacific League, the one time he was actually allowed to play that role

how do we even know hes insane tho, he has no experience professionally, he played like 2 splits of challengers where he was very mid statistically

after champs, daveeys passed away in the off season

yes, literally their second best player passed away, idk if u forgot about that. one of their players has little to no experience playing tier 2/tier 3 valorant, Klaus is not good and had a fluke LCQ run, Shyy is good but it won't be enough, keznit is ofc good, Melser is not that good of an igl but hes a decent fragger

watching a dude one trick and abuse the living shit out of the most broken agent in valorant history will give you that perception

no its not false at all lmao

if ur gonna look at the stats, you'll probably find demon1 was better because he was one tricking pre-nerf chamber pretty often, but relative to their roles, OXY was better

i mean he was better than Demon1 back when they were going at it in tier 2/3, no reason he cant be better

my pickems have them going to the playin but its a lot more likely that they're going straight through to the playoffs

tbh its less that im a gentle mates believer and more that i don't believe in vitality to do as well considering they're playing kickoff with destrian despite having been practicing with Trexx. its the same reason why SEN won over PRX in AFTV even tho champs version of PRX was obviously better

as for RRQ, they have jemkin and xffero, they're poised for some success this year

Americas: https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/75055e61

EMEA: https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/68bfc784

Pacific: https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/824782a7

bumzilians talking like they didnt give China their first playoffs international win and bomb out of tokyo with no maps won

just to be clear i dont even like NRG

im sure someone was calling TenZ, cNed, SUYGETSU, and Shao that

trent sova on ascent > crashies sova on ascent

the thing about being a good sova on ascent is you want someone who can completely dominate with an odin, which is something trent and cauanzin do better than crashies

if we can't use the second half of the year as a major argument for including or not including certain players into these conversations, then you might as well just entirely remove anyone on EG, because they were all completely irrelevant before 2023. They were all incredibly inconsistent or mid for so long beforehand, and I have no doubt they will be equally as bad this year.

you guys can say that all you want until the time comes for nominating the best player itw and you'll all say the best fraggers, not the players who have the best utility or the players with a happy medium

his K/D was almost equal to FNS's at masters. thats extremely embarrassing for the "best initiator in Americas"

crashies does not deserve the title of best recon initiator in Americas after last year. hes half the reason NRG sucked in the second half of the season

nah they're the same exact person i dont know why u think they're not similar

#8

you'll figure it out when you put two and two together. theres only ever been a few relevant fans of the guard core

geospliced is like the Jonty of VLR. real ones know

id say bait used to be believable but urs has never been believable. i still own you

valorant could actually have a chance at being the most popular esport if it was ran the same way as CS. i'd be surprised if CS orgs aren't more profitable than valorant orgs too, so i highly doubt that org sustainability is the biggest reasoning for the franchising bullshit

u realize norcal has a population of 15 million right? maybe you just dont realize just how many local people we have that would support the niners lol. i don't watch the NFL personally tho, so i can't say. but unlike the NBA, there arent any other norcal teams, so its not just bay area people who support the niners

still the third best NBA franchise of all time

just keep coping harder lmao, unless ur from LA or Boston, 99% chance none of ur teams have half the success Bay Area teams have

i dont watch the NFL but its crazy how the rest of america is so jealous and has such a massive hate boner for Bay Area sports teams lmfao

thief should join up with aproto and sym. they'll automatically get invited into Challengers bc they will have earned MxM's old spot for maintaining a 3 man core