Toronto is mid asf
Paris is dope asf
Bangkok is p good
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| Registered: | April 29, 2022 |
| Last post: | June 29, 2025 at 9:23 PM |
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Toronto is mid asf
Paris is dope asf
Bangkok is p good
Seems like they only know how to do initiators fr
Gekko and Fade were good
But the rest like
Deadlock
Clove
Harbor
Iso
all stink
Agreed but I don't think the debate is actually about who's the better player, it's about who is more beneficial to Fnatic rn.
If Hiro on cypher allows chronicle to regain his prime on his comfortable agents, then long term it could be the better move for fnc
There's a COC esports?
They raid eachother or what?
100% Leo nerfs chronicle hard.
Leo not being able to play cypher nerfs the poor guy into the ground
I've seen ppl talking about orgs that have different nationality rosters and wanted to make a list so here goes.
Suggestions down below pls :D
100Thieves: Full NA but used to have a brazilian, then Aussie CSGO team.
Disguised: Singaporean, used to be NA
Zeta Division: This one surprised me the most... They have a polish brawl stars team? xD
FPX: China and EU switcheroo
Ninjas in Pyjamas: (RIP) The streets remember their China, EU and Brazil arcs... This was smt else...
Team Secret: I think they have some EU dota roster... Not sure...
Team Liquid: They got a Swedish dota team and a (majority) south korean LOL team I believe
G2: Their GC team still up but their EU team has been gone since they picked up TheGoats
NaVi: A japenese brawl stars team? Good lord.
I thought it was australian
Edit: brazilian roster was picked up and asap dropped and they picked up renegades roster aka Aussie roster
A LOT of orgs pick up different rosters from different places for different sports...
Example Team Secret has a European roster
FPX did a switcheroo between China and EU
Disguised to apac
Liquid have a swedish dota team and a south korean (majority) league roster
Agreed. I think Leo's next team will be Fnatic or he will quit valo entirely.
Yeah, I have to admit the old team looked tired and VERY ready for a change. Especially after that shanghai run.
Keep this up and you'll be banned in 2-3 business weeks bud.
With all the comparison on VLR of these 2 beasts lately, I thought it would be interesting to collect the statistics to dig a little deeper. Let me know what you think, and who you think works better with the team. Enjoy! :D
VCT EMEA stage 2 Hiro stats:
45 / 44 / 37 +1
36 / 35 / 13 +1
35 / 22 / 16 +13 (MVP)
29 / 20 / 10 +9
50 / 42 / 15 +8
31 / 29 / 10 +2
35 / 25 / 14 +10
52 / 52 / 32 +0
Fnatic stage 2 win rate with Hiro: 100%
Champions 2024 Hiro stats:
29 / 20 / 15 +9 (MVP)
24 / 32 / 12 -8
50 / 44 / 12 +6
28 / 26 / 14 +2
27 / 22 / 12 +5
35 / 46 / 18 -11
Fnatic champs 24 win rate with Hiro: 50%
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VCT EMEA stage 1 Leo stats:
40 / 30 / 13 +10 (MVP)
35 / 31 / 21 +4
28 / 16 / 16 +12
31 / 19 / 12 +12
32 / 32 / 17 +0
34 / 34 / 14 +0
66 / 42 / 24 +24 (MVP)
46 / 19 / 20 +27 (MVP)
28 / 30 / 10 -2 (MVP)
67 / 54 / 38 +13
85 / 57 / 50 +28 (MVP)
Fnatic Stage 2 win rate with Leo: 64%
Note that there are more games played here...
Champions 2023 Leo stats:
32 / 15 / 15 +17
24 / 20 / 19 +4
29 / 28 / 10 +1
26 / 18 / 21 +8
45 / 30 / 27 +15 (MVP)
45 / 36 / 27 +9 (MVP)
Fnatic champs 23 winrate with Leo: 66.6%
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As a final reminder I would like to say that these players have very different styles and play very different roles for their teams. I mean, leo has literally NEVER played cypher professionally, not one game. Also, I would like to remind you that it is Hiro's first season in tier 1, meanwhile Leo has been in t1 since 2020.
AND REMEMBER, STATS AREN'T EVERYTHING!
bro you guys cannot understand a joke holy
sorry i maybe shouldve made it clearer
All I'm gonna say is I haven't seen any hate threads lately apart from those of EU origin. Not taking sides, just stating what I've seen.
xeppaa should go if they want to be competitive but good team
Also you have 3 initiators
I haven't learned my lesson but you can't spell ascension?
People use spectre because it's 'easier' in that the recoil is far more manageable and larger mag aka "multikill potential" for ranked farmers.
Despite this obviously the stinger provides significantly more value for ecos. I think it's just more appreciated in pro because they understand ttk (time to kill) efficiency more, control the recoil better and make more use out of the smaller mag
Not saying i disagree or agree but can you elaborate? It's an interesting take actually
Dude straight up said 'im retiring'
Ladies and gentlemen, we are almost at the peak of VLR history.
We are on the precipice of a new dawn.
https://www.vlr.gg/369961/everyone-come-serious
Almost 1,000 downvotes.
Go solidify your place in VLR history and get n0x0sn0m0d to that milestone he deserves.
Until next time brethren. And may god be with you 🫡
and wtf has ishaanko done?
noone knows you lil bro
W list Jaox
Holy guacamole
I don;t think you linked the tier list
calling him smth11 is crazy work
Sentinels VS DRX
TH VS Fnatic
Leviatan VS G2
Edward VS Trace
This absolutely sucks, but I guess we'll get a confirmed international final so it could be worse.
Thoughts?
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to be fair there's more than one el clasico
For example in germany theres der klasike i believe which is dortmund vs bayern
Le classique (marseille vs psg)
PSV vs Ajax dont remember the name
But it makes more sense that some are 'derbys' instead of clasicos i guess for example milan derby, north london derby etc
Ofc bro whats the point in useless engagement bait hate its a forum after all
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