I don't think it is tbh. By the list and how I feel this year is gonna go I think EU and NA will dominate. But we shall see I could be wrong

I guess we'll see what happens this year how much 'valorant knowledge' I actually know!

I don't think I'll change this list at all. I do hope you learn to respect someone's opinion though, good life lesson.

I actually considered this but I've never seen him play against great opposition. Might add him to honourable mentions though, the stats he puts even if it is against 'worse' opposition and the clips I've seen are insane

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Each to their own but I feel cryos is better than ardiis'. But we'll see soon enough

The bang take got people made I can see why but just have a feeling. Glad we agree on the sayf take though

I like the take I can't lie

Your opinion I guess, I think he's pretty talented

Fair takes tbf I can respect it. I have jinggg that low because I feel like he won't be as good as he was last year but theres honestly the argument he might be even be better as the meta shifts away from chamber. We'll have to see but the PRX guys I found quite difficult to rank. I can see the debate for jinggg being top 15

Give me your top 30 then.

Check back at the end of the year I guess

You do you my friend. I will re-iterate, it is stats AND personal value. We shall see who's right by the end of the year

Your opinion however I feel this year Cryocells will overtake the likes of yay

1. Is Rb now better than bang because he 'placed 3rd at champions?' Is FNS too ability wise since he placed 2nd at champions?
2. 1 series doesn't decide if a player is better than another
3. If you properly read the entire thread, you'd realise my personal opinion is also taken into account.

Alright, let's see yours then since mine is so based

Got him at 7, my list is here anyways https://www.vlr.gg/164785/the-top-30-players-in-valorant-franchising

Damn you do you I guess but I can't agree my friend

Yeah man, I'm backing bang to surpass MaKo this year we'll see what happens with that take but I'll double down.

Franchising changes that I guess since now the level is so high you'll see how good players are against better opposition more often. I'm mainly basing this on my opinion and what I've seen. Also you wouldn't say that nAts should be ranked down despite the last time he was seen internationally was at Champions 2021 right?

If you are referring to Pancada he's on the honourable mentions

Marved isn't there because this is 'The Top 30 Players in Valorant Franchising' and he isn't currently in there. Pancada is in the honourable mentions found it difficult to put him in. And I believe this year bang could become one of the best smokes players in the world. That's just my take, if its wrong feel free the flame me, if it's right I'm sure you'll go quiet.

Honestly had no idea. However the point I'm making isn't that they are top 30 worthy, I'm just saying I'm only taking into account franchised players on this list. Does that make sense?

Let me guess, yay is number 1 for you? I don't think he's a bad player or anything like that but I think Cryo and others overtake him this year

Because they are all good players in my personal opinion? Hopefully they show that at Brazil but I think you are seriously underrating them

I mean, sScary and Surf aren't in Valorant Franchising so wouldn't be available for a 'The Top 30 Players in Valorant Franchising' list. The rest is your opinion, saadhak isn't a bad shout tbf

Ok then, let me see yours if mine is so bad

Idk I think he'll still solidly be top 10 but just have a feeling

Guess that's your opinion

Where would you put Jinggg and MaKo then?

Disclaimer: This is MY opinion and yours may vary lightly or heavily. It was difficult making this list as it's difficult to value players based on ability since different players play different roles but I feel this will be a good indicator of who will be up there based on numbers and potential alone. This was incredibly hard to make even based on numbers potential and my personal opinion and honestly from 1-9 and 10 downwards it is easily interchangeable. These are my predictions by the end of 2023. There are obviously other factors that increase the value of a player (IGLing etc.)
Here is the list:

1. Cryocells
2. aspas
3. nAts
4. cNed
5. Sayf
6. SUYGETSU
7. bang
8. Derke
9. yay
10. zekken
11. Alfajer
12. Leo
13. Less
14. TenZ
15. sheydos
16. Shao
17. Leaf
18. Cloud
19. Chronicle
20. MaKo
21. ardiis
22. Jinggg
23. f0rsaken
24. ScreaM
25. BuZz
26. nukkye
27. mwzera
28. Sacy
29. kiNgg
30. Jamppi

Very Honarable Mentions: jawgemo, Laz, Zellsis, saadhak, pancada, Xeppaa, heat, SkRossi, SugarZ3ro, Sayaplayer, Zyppan, Nivera

Feel free to comment your opinion I'm interested to see it :)