1. Management by both dfm and zeta are shit
2. Talents are there it's just very dispersed across tier 2 teams
3. Playerbase not that big but growing (idk lmao)
4. Idk lol help me list more 😅
5. Esports more like spectator sport so doesn't translate to playerbase getting bigger

Tbf to build a solid foundation you need a solid playerbase that's what india lacked tbh

Foundation as in for the future and the scene overall. Not just the players.

It doesn't have to be abundant, it's just needs to be sufficient, that alone will lay the foundation.

The only players I know from Indian cs are marzil and forsaken and both are bad now, that's a very bad foundation to start on

That's the complain I always have in my mind about how people view japanese valorant so can't say I don't get where you're coming from, the comparison is just incredibly unfair

You guys are too esports-centric

Geez bro thanks for stating the obvious

Now the question is how do you get them to play?

Good analysis brother

I should do analysis like this too about japan so hopefully we can dispel some stigmas about japanese valorant

Tbh the gap between SG ( 3rd place team) against Fennel Riddle and even Murash ( 4th place) are pretty far, so I can feel that sentiment too.

Joseph (rimu) confuses me tbh, unlike his peers this guy's record is almost nonexistent, twitter clip if any dates way back. There's something he/scarz/Striderz are hiding from public ( or I'm just unaware of how good this guy is.

Should I feel happy the fact that SG can win scrims against GE , a franchising team. Or should I be a bit upset that SG is called a low tier 2 team 😅, either way its just scrims anyways

Zeta vs dfm, or rather there shouldn't have been one in the first place, the fact that this rivalry exists only showcases how incompetent zeta's management truly is.

I would replace:
oitan with hiroronn or Yatsuka
Dep with Xdll or NOBITA

hi

Those 2 teams you mentioned have a flavour of management's stupidity running on the team.. it's not necessarily because they're bad...

Also they bring in views

BBL going international is very weird move considering their region's talent pool

https://x.com/LOB__LOB/status/1830452672543232299

It's over a month now, but yeah, this might be part of the reason why DFM decided to not go with him

Didn't Lob just suffer injuries?

What happened to Chinese Dota tho, it seems like the region just declines further and further

Bad example, boom on home crowd...

It's not as bad as he makes it out to be ( maybe, unless he showed some stats) , but the growth is slow af

You forgot 2018 and 2020 where G2 reached top 4 😅. But yeah LEC declined since then. Definitely want to see them do better tho

Sad, definitely want to see G2 in playoffs

Heartbreak

If the pause never happened do you guys think G2 would have a chance?

There was no bug according to officials apparently

So are they in a better position rn? I want G2 to win 😭

Wait G2 can do that?

Is that normal in league?

Why did they pause the game?

Lowkey rooting for g2 rn

Depends on how scarz perform now that both ejay and adrnking alr finished their visa ( I assume), scarz is definitely getting that buff, but if they managed to lose then bullco is not him lmao

Doombros to dfm pls pls

I think johnta or euler should be dragged to tier 1 imo, they've been stuck in vcj too long alr

Which is why I'm considering on giving carlao another chance ( I'm secretly zeta's management), but kicking hiroronn out is definitely bad for the team.

That's just the scene in general tho, that's not to say it will just remain the same.

I can make arguments as to how this split's imports will be worse than previous splits(especially those on lesser known teams) . I can also argue why Japan next split will rely even less on imports next split(tldr Japan's increasing amount of talents replacing imports) and how it will hurt teams ( risks in taking in unproven talents) but benefitting the scene in the long term.

As long as not every team imports 2 players and the JP talent pool actually widens ( which it does; and orgs needs to utilize this fact) I think we are going to be in a good position

Nah bro, CGZ is bout to be exposed in both Apac play ins and Apex after this the level of play are just different.

(maybe they can do slightly better in Apex but definitely not Redbull)

Mametu fall asleep
Yowamu and Ask busted their ass
Team Z has no coach iirc, so them geting close on CGZ is actually kinda crazy
if they actually didn't choke on the first 2 maps we would have a very different discussions now.

Let's just say they both really tried on this one 😅😭

Not another fake comeback again by team z 😭😭

Did mods just delete a post suggesting that there should be cross region tournaments for both top 2 teams from each regions ?

(Oops never mind I'm stupid lmao )

( -DFM + FENNEL/ CR

What's wrong with that? I mean sure, the idea of a full japanese with vcl is something i really desire but ,as long as new talents keeps popping out it doesn't really matter.

As long as it's not scarz winning vcl with 4 imports I don't really care who wins tbh.

Brian is clearly nerfed by having to igl and playing duelist at the same time.

Even if they're replacing brian, good duelist are relatively easy to find in japan so icebear joining g is kinda questionable.

Also now that Brian potentially leaves who becomes the igl now?

Fuck, team z are so close from completing the comeback 😅

I think VCJ has the most academy teams out of any regions rn so they definitely put a ton of resources

You're clearly not familiar with jp scene.

Aace yatsuka and caedye only started playing this year.

Academy teams popping up everywhere even if we don't include questionable ones.

Yowamu and bnn started showing some promise ( albeit needed more guidance)

Mametu who never played in t2 is playing rn .

Talent regeneration in japan is far from dead...

They should consider switching rui and bom alpha between each map imo, then again might be a bad idea.

They really need to fix their problems , if they can then this team is going far I think

The team showed signs of life at the end , but that first half really costed them

Bro FAV looked very unprepared, Minty and bazz leaving really hurt the team

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