that's the thing tho, you also can't expect a player at jingg's caliber to switch to something like initiator and play a supportive role when he's leagues ahead of the rest of his team at being a proactive entry super-star. I don't even really think the team SHOULD have to change a lot, they just weren't playing like how they did in 2023.

well right now his agent pool isn't limiting them
Maps he can play and not have to play jett:
Haven
Split
Bind
Pearl
Sunset
Abyss (You can say it is a jett map but realistically, no one has defined the abyss meta outside "ascent characters are good")
Maps where he has to play jett:
Ascent
Now realistically, is the jett/gekko/reyna 3 trick limiting PRX, or is the guy who can play every duelist (because realistically whats hard about jett when you can play every other duelist and have 206 hours on her https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/PRX%20Jinggg%23Jing/agents?season=all )
the person limiting PRX. What a baseless claim on the map pool of another player. Jingg has been signed as a duelist player and, frankly, should be kept on duelist unlike other players who can only play jett.

icl they're kind of cooking. Frees them up on raze/neon maps (the majority of the maps) from having to run double duelist and gives them a primary sova/fade player as well. I think this could be pretty good for them depending on how something looks

most of the people following him on SEN now didn't watch him when he was on Ghost or M80 or watch his streams because they limit him to just the sentinel/viper role. In reality, he's probably the second most flexible player on SEN right now besides zekken (since zellsis doesn't play recon).

he can play smokes, recon init, flash init, sentinel and started off his career as a duelist player. Plus, sova is in his top 3 most played ranked agents of all time https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20johnqt%2321MA/agents?season=all

i advocate for 100t a lot but I realize now why no one takes you guys seriously lmfao

hiko and nitro before dicey stellar and seven is crazy

yeah but that was in 2021, interested to see how he does this year. I wonder if removing xeppaa for mitch or moose for net later in the season would make the team better (to alleviate the calling burden on rossy)

dazzle igled while rossy was on ttr

your context of a month long process is from around 15 minutes in a podcast

yes but the sole reason they picked him up wasnt tracker, most ranked demons are ass. dont soil primmie's name, he is the exception.

damn, hope they pick up a good senti player like grumble or shinsei

when was something leaving prx leaked?

man has 1 bad game for 2 years straight and yall dont let it go

they trialed primmie multiple times before picking him up, they didnt pick him up off tracker score lmao

jitboys is arguably their second best player. im sure they would trial but from the way they talk about jit too, hes not getting replaced and tbh it would be a shame to put him on a different role

Frost already confirmed they’re sticking with their 5 (not sure why they would change it up anyways since this is the best talon has done and they weren’t very good before)

heard he was a streamer or smth

or maybe turkish smokes like ruxic?

yeah I get that, but when your team is literally ONLY newbies they need a strong caller and mentor figure, something magnum couldn't provide. besides I wouldnt keep him anyways if I was going to bring in saadhak and suygetsu; theres literally no reason for him to be on the roster.

Magnum didn’t provide much, his calling was mediocre and his fragging wasn’t good. I would agree with keeping tomaszy but I think the org just wanted shin out since he’s been there for a bit

icl asuna and bang have a chokehold on nadeshot I dont think hes letting them go unless cryo is going full time smokes for whatever reason

fair enough, I fw zander more still but I see the T1 exp being the defining factor for some people

as a cryo fan I think you should scroll down and look at the list <3

zander drops better numbers while calling

mibr was the most consistent

He’s not Korean what 😭😭

G2 as the most consistent Val team vs TH and GENG?

C0m did most of the midrounding though so a better example would probably be someone like redgar and that hasn’t exactly gone well, it’ll be interesting to see with saadhak though, I have a lot of faith

yay never lurked...

thats just untrue, outside of league and cs yeah sure but in the communities most people know OG top players lmao

why has every roster remake for sentinels ive seen remove zekken, the best player on that roster... jawgemo and demon1 have not shown to be as good recently lmao

tbf before champs tenz was bigger than kk in china, right now maybe it's closer but there definitely isn't that big of a gap

maybe better mechanically than vanity but imo runi is way more flexible and vanity is a caller so hes worth more imo

who is he better than on the current iteration?

verno wants to stay with bonkar who is going to NRG so max ur getting is brawk

don't care forsaken can call or they just run it down

aspas duelist
zekken flex
f0rsaken smokes
chichoo sentinel
leo init
just doing every region because if it wasn't it would just be like fnatic +aspas +karon or something

If u count chronicle as an init I would put him over riens

Would FNC 2023 not then be a bigger streak of dominance?

yeah say you're trying to use a shorty with it in pearl a main, virtually impossible to do!

cauanzin less and tuyz are still on contract so

what a weird thing to say about someone

no because of taiwan not because of skill LOL

putting s1mon there is controversial

yea but he still played tho is what I mean, I agree with u im jus saying

4/10 benjy player last year

sacy also got grouped at champs 2021 LOL

nats last year?

not sure I would call ghost t1 but that’s subjective really since there’s not really a metric for what was t2 back then either