yea but he still played tho is what I mean, I agree with u im jus saying

4/10 benjy player last year

sacy also got grouped at champs 2021 LOL

nats last year?

not sure I would call ghost t1 but that’s subjective really since there’s not really a metric for what was t2 back then either

If the trade takes longer than 4 seconds then it doesn't count towards KAST iirc, notice how smoggy chichoo and s1mon are in the top 10 for KAST at the tournament, trades just take a while. When I say the rounds lost matter its because there are rounds where kangkang will go in, die and then the guy attempting to trade will die, it happens it's a part of the game but doesn't discredit how the team functionally plays together. EDG wouldn't have won the tournament if they were shit at trading, that much is clear.

surprisingly edg has lost rounds before!

yea I agree i just disagreed with the running for decades thing

yeah but you judge the games for the year not because theyve been running for decades

global util on bind so you dont have to insta rotate like if you were playing brimstone, can also suck the plant to give more time to rotate

EG shit at the beginning of the year

this but unironically

That’s what happened at afreeca when SEN beat PRX because EG was gone duh 🙄

boostio 14 hour content creation smh nadeshot losing NA the league

yeah honestly, same thing if nozwer would come back

lev would be better sen would be worse
sen can't afford to lose firepower and tbh I don't think c0m's util usage is better than sacy's and even if it was, SEN already have to rely on two players fragging out regularly along with one of their midrounders to frag in order to win in advantageous positions a lot of the time.

no internationals tho, its a joke mostly

I mean depends on whether or not placements factor, technically speaking reykjavik will always be the best rookie debut 💀

Calling china a middle income country and England + Korea high income is definitely something

L take jitboys clears your lineage

tbh jingg has only done poorly for like one split this season, all their issues look like team issues in general so it’s really just asuna who hasnt been performing at his peak for a while

How did YFP not make it in but SAD did?

kris left a day or two ago

you haven't been paying attention to this situation at all have you?

mitch, zander, net, stellar, flyuh, POISED/gMd(not sure who is igling for TSM but they look solid), and hell even paincakes is making good calls. Most of the IGLs in T2 could be in T1 right now tbh so idk what you're on about

yeah, for a team with no existing core and being considered "bad" NA players, they played very well

yea I was thinking of cr1tikal, my bad
ludwig did make this statement saying he was in paris so he probably doesn't have time to sit down to make a statement about something completely unrelated to him
https://x.com/LudwigAhgren/status/1815783211751927929

her initial tweet about dr kid inspect was "yuck", ludwig also tweeted several times and made a video abt ava

yeah because they were speaking english on t1

half of them are what?

I agree with you that TH is probably better right now, but I think that VIT beating them twice deserves to put them in HM

woot boo and benjyfishy imo have done more for the team than riens has. I don't even think hes a bad player, hes bar none the second best initiator (best now since leo is gone) in EMEA and imo top 3 itw but I can't judge him as better than leo when leo is just consistently better than the entire league and the world.

you said current and based on form... not where they would place. Realistically only like 4 of the teams you mentioned will probably make playoffs just because of the nature of group stages.

leo outshines a team full of veterans and top players, riens isn't even the second best player on his team.

also acting like 2 trophies doesn't make him tied for the 2nd most decorated player LMAO

VIT beat TH twice but dont deserve at least honorable mention?

naw eeiu and cryo clear icl

https://www.vlr.gg/353192/g2-esports-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/337409/kr-esports-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/295619/g2-esports-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-decider-c
https://www.vlr.gg/295615/kr-esports-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-opening-c

probably should

yeah and you could still definitely pick up hiro and patitek for that team if they don't perform well (honestly unless RunneR drops heavy numbers every game at champs I would pick up hiro for him anyway once he gets dropped by fnatic)

aw thats unfort then, sliggy to VIT is still possible since they got rid of salah no? I would like to see sayf in a structure where he isn't required to be dropping heavy numbers every time

unless sayf has a problem with the org: sayf nats hiro patitek and whoever the fuck they can get to igl would go hard

zellsis one map warrior o7

-runner + hiro
and if cender's igling proves to be dookie in internationals revive bonkar

sign nozwer and this team instantly makes an international

doubt loud will ever really be a bottom 2 team as long as they have less and pancada tbh

said no to 100T LOUD and EG's make a wishes </3

honestly considering they’re 3 rookies and a coach who changes the comps a lot, they’re probably saving strats and fucking around. still don’t really think they would beat PRX though

I mean realistically, playing different agents on different maps basically every game and still going positive on pretty much all of them and having a positive FKFD is pretty good, they really just need to stick to comps for more than a game tbh.

I mean he’s played 6 different agents in the past 30 days, it’s not like his agent pool is really limiting them either since that’s just how PRX plays anyway

m80 cs2 coach now

cned, nats, meteor, suygetsu, shao, ange1, boostio, sayf, ethan