SEN has been keeping Abyss hidden, they have been scrimming it and sometimes let the map veto go 3rd map. DRX are insane on abyss though so we'll see.

maybe not 100% the issue, but they were playing some off meta shit putting Tenz on Sage bro. Also role issues was a huge issue, we needed a sentinel player because Dephh from my knowledge is an IGL who plays initiator. Johnqt was the perfect fit for SEN, he was an IGL who also happened to play sentinel.

I am confused why is Johnqt so underrated? Bro won a trophy this year and now top 4 in champs. He is the reason we won Sunset, bro was him.

We are in 2024 where IGL's need to be fragging too, but besides frags his calls are great

SEN and LEV can only face each other in a B05, which imo is better for SEN but we will see. LEV has been looking good lately. As for EDG, i'm not sure how a B05 will go. First we got to win vs DRX/TH though

oh yeah I forgot about that game damn

We won against every first seed except CN, China winning champs??? (except LEV obviously but they are Americas so I dont count them)

I could be wrong but this might of been the worse performance i've seen from Tenz this year, and the boys still won GGWP

No matter what happens here, I always believe in SEN.

GGWP Fnatic, thanks to you guys we will recover our mental and mindset. We are winning it all, lets go SEN!

Doesnt matter they pistol won bonus against them.

Their attack half is super good, but defense not very good at all.

I have been saying this forever, SEN defense is some ass but my god is their attack half so good. 4 is all they need, I would be happy with anything more than that. Sunset has always been a close map if you look at their previous results.

Thanks for jinxing, SEN woke up and won 5 rounds in a row to close the map.

Im a SEN fan, Im going to criticize when they play like shit. Today they played like shit, EDG deserved that free win. I still believe they are winning champs because we always win the lower bracket.

Johnqt never fought A rubble once, or rushed C site on Lotus what is bro doing. They have no mollies or raze nade to stop c rushes or to cross rubble. My goat Johnqt can't possibly not understand this right?

SEN always go to the lower bracket, Kickoff, Madrid, we will do it again watch. EDG played way better than SEN today, just bad calling from SEN. Although Zekken still goated dropping 59 kills while losing.

To be fair everyone clowns on CN region, Boostio is the one that kinda started the drama. So Americas will take fault for this trash talking. I love EDG idk why so much trash talking for.

Zekken dropped 59 and we lost??? Bro is insane, bad calling from Johnqt. GGWP EDG

yall had me doubting LEV but you guys are looking good in playoffs ngl. I hope Americas win another trophy, even if its not SEN. Aspas is goated so ik bro is locked in rn.

Zekken vs Derke time to show the Raze diff, and Tenz vs Boaster hehe

6-6 is a very good half on Defense side Lotus, their attack have been the strongest half so idk what happened. I think pistol + bonus fucked them mentally.

All good, I think SEN realizes that now and we will beat Fnatic! SEN always win through the lower bracket idk how but they do.

Johnqt has some good calling but sometimes I wonder why did he never called to fight A on Lotus or rush a C hit. EDG used breach stun at start of round and they have no mollies to stop a C hit, im not sure why Johnqt played so weird on attack side. They have no Raze nade to stop Tenz/Zekken from crossing A rubble, it's is so easy to get control of, instead they just gave EDG free map control for no reason at all. The one round they did take A, they just left and ran back C for some reason. Johnqt got ptsd from that bonus round where EDG hit a nice stun because you gave them time to rotate and get stun back up. SEN has always won those A fights somehow, like just let Tenz/Zekken fight they always somehow win those gunfights.

it will be a 2-0 whatever team plays here

They trolled on attack on Lotus, it was 6-6 half. They got bonus on attack Lotus somehow, making it too hard to comeback otherwise map could of been close. As for Sunset, I've been saying SEN has the worst Sunset defense i've ever seen. I made an analysis post earlier.

Map pool is very similar.
FNC bans Icebox, SEN bans Ascent
FNC picks Haven
SEN picks Sunset (or maybe surprise Abyss?)
FNC bans Abyss, SEN bans Bind
Decider Lotus

2-0 SEN sorry fnatic but you guys have similar issue to SEN, but worse yall wait until like 15-20 seconds to plant the bomb sometimes.

Their attack side is super good, if the started on attack it probably goes OT imo. They have the worst defense on Sunset ive ever seen. Idk how df they had a 82% wr on that map.

I want SEN, EDG, or LEV to win champs if anybody so good luck rest of tournament. They will be playing TH or LEV.

Zellsis is not the issue at all wtf are you watching, this was a team diff. They got anti strated super well by EDG.

EDG aim is insane won them a lot of rounds, SEN strats are better but cant retake against a team that knows how to mutl frag insanely well. GGWP

YAP YAP YAP

I love this team so much, and because I watch so much VCT.I can see the issues with SEN so easily, obviously im watching from a spectators POV so I cant talk about playing during the match but thats just my analysis. This is why stage 1 was so bad btw, they just went back to have they played in stage 1 and teams couldn't anti them in champs. EDG luckily fought SEN after they show this so they can do what SEN had issues with before.

Haven is easily the best map for retakes, so SEN playstyle is perfect on that map. As for Sunset you cannot be playing retake especially on B site without killing at least one or two guys. Its ok to go 3v3. It means less spam/utility so its easier to stick bomb.

This is just my opinion on SEN vs EDG match, they looked really good on Haven but just forgot how to play other two maps.

Problem with SEN Sunset Defense: From watching their match vs DRX/EDG. The benefit of Neon is that shes one of the fastest rotating agents, show Zekken one side and have him rotate somewhere else. Default your setups, have breach/fade utility on A to fake SEN are fighting with Cypher setup (this baits them to think cypher is on the opposite site, when you actually fast rotated 3 players to that site) there and then have 2 guys rotate off, you can leave Tenz to hold the one way after. Break the cam should always be priority, because then if EDG defaults like the have been doing, they will be more afraid to clear A/B main. Make less obvious trap plays, they are too basic and everyone knows the mid push down with breach stun, to counter contacting up you should play an off angle because it's guaranteed like one, with a good chance of 2. Have Zekken/Tenz buy an OP, also counters contacting up. My point is don't make it too obvious with defense, retake one side and heavy side one is the too easy to read. I know SEN know this an issue, because they have fixed it before but they forgot because they haven't played Sunset in a while im not sure. Have backsite control on B, helps a lot with flooding out, EDG used zero utility backsite and just planted and left. You can punish this type of playstyle with a Flood. Have someone jiggling B main for info, so you can have faster rotates. TO BE FAIR TO SEN, there was a lot of close rounds on B retake so they did get a bit unlucky but you should not be playing 5v5 retake on B Sunset bro, thats just stupid.

As for Lotus: SEN defense was fine 6-6 on attack sided map is very good but for some reason on attack they were too scared to fight A or at least rush C off it. Johnqt hears 3 players on A, and they have no breach stun/mollies to stop your C hit, go hit C sooner. How is Kaplan not saying in the timeouts that only Smoggy is holding the line on C. I'm also confuse why SEN never fought A once on their attack, the one round they did they took A rubble so easily. Just to leave and go C for some reason. They have no Raze nade to stop Zekken/Tenz to cross rubble why are we not fighting A at all?

That's exactly my point, SEN defense is too readable. Yes they have the best retakes in champs rn but doesn't mean you should always be relying on it, especially on a bomb spam like Sunset B main.

Problem with SEN Sunset Defense: From watching their match vs DRX/EDG. The benefit of Neon is that shes one of the fastest rotating agents, show Zekken one side and have him rotate somewhere else. Default your setups, have breach/fade utility on A to fake SEN are fighting with Cypher setup there and then have 2 guys rotate off, you can leave Tenz to hold the one way after. Break the cam should always be priority, because then if EDG defaults like the have been doing, they will be more afraid to clear A/B main. Make less obvious trap plays, they are too basic and everyone knows the mid push down with breach stun, to counter contacting up you should play an off angle because it's guaranteed like one, with a good chance of 2. Have Zekken/Tenz buy an OP, also counters contacting up. My point is don't make it too obvious with defense, retake one side and heavy side one is the too easy to read. I know SEN know this an issue, because they have fixed it before but they forgot because they haven't played Sunset in a while im not sure.

As for Lotus: SEN defense was fine 6-6 on attack sided map is very good but for some reason on attack they were too scared to fight A or at least rush C off it. Johnqt hears 3 players on A, and they have no breach stun/mollies to stop your C hit, go hit C sooner. How is Kaplan not saying in the timeouts that only Smoggy is holding the line on C. I'm also confuse why SEN never fought A once on their attack, the one round they did they took A rubble so easily. Just to leave and go C for some reason. They have no Raze nade to stop Zekken/Tenz to cross rubble why are we not fighting A at all?

Fuck SEN, they are playing like pussies man.

Well I did ask for a map 3 but SEN should of had Lotus, their attack half is the best side on that map. Johnqt was just not reading EDG at all. Also hitting C very late fucked them everytime, if they hit C they just need to hit it faster. Johnqt hears 3 people on A, not sure why he never called it.

They hit C with like 20 seconds left, they never rushed C. EDG literally did the same A rubble control every round. C rush is guaranteed a plant. They also never tried to fight A, I'm not sure why I feel like they win those type of gunfights, they don't have a nade to stop Zekken/Tenz from crossing rubble.

Johnqt why we playing so slow against Chinese teams? They play the most basic defense ever bro, 2 1 2 cmon man where are your reads. They have no sentinel or mollies to stop a C hit, just go fucking C jesus christ.

Drop the ego clown, G2 is out of the tournament.

Are we still questioning if SEN is overated? 2-0 every matchup except for their first loss to GENG. G2 struggled against EDG, Trace beat LEV, and EDG destroyed Trace. TH struggled against GENG/FPX. Like SEN just destroying every team. Im glazing until people realize SEN are just too good rn

EDIT: I Jinxed them, Johnqt calling is horrible after I said this LMAO

I knew SEN were good, but wow they are playing even better than Madrid somehow.

Im talking about 2024? Where did I mention Fnatic huh. If SEN win champs they are the best team of 2024, even if they missed one LAN. Idk about you I rather attend 2/3 LAN but win the whole event then, going to all the events.

He's the best OPer imo, CNED does some crazy shots, but Kangkang with an OP is legit crazy Aura. I would be scared to play against him if bro had an OP.

wait until they win Champs, they will be the best team of 2024. 2 trophies (champs/madrid)> 1 trophy (shanghai)

Are you trolling bro? I never said that was an anti, go watch Sideshow video about it. Im not explaining to someone on VLR especially on what is an anti strat.

Considering they have been leaving Abyss open as a 3rd map, makes me think they have been practicing a lot probably. They just haven't shown it because they don't want to get Anti. I expect Abyss in the EDG game, just watch.

GENG played worse because SEN anti them very hard, go watch Sideshow videos he gives very depth anti strat from that match. Im not saying TH will lose to SEN, but saying we wont get a map is just disrespectful bro. Give some respect to SEN, they have been dominating.