It was always us against them. EU and NA just feel superior to underdevolped countires, and when we face them and beat them at something, they just turno to hate. There's nothing else they can do, even more on videgames, they are much more advanced technology wise and still lose. They are richer, they have better salary, better PCs, better orgs, better competition, better economy and still lose, what else is left besides hate? They don't hate other developed countires, because there's no reason. The starting line is the same. It's ok to lose to them since they have equal oportunity, but lose to us? It's an outrage, they can't accept, everything that is left is hate. That's the real reason.

"Death threats". It became a meme dude, nobody is going to kill nobody, you guys are so sensitive, calm yourselves down. Jeez

That's entitled, what's the metric you have, what's the data you have to say that the most toxic people are the turkish? Just seems like you are assuming, why is that?

We don't know that, Hazed is an influencer with thousand of followers. Anything he says can be turned into hate.

savage

I agree that it's not relevant. But what hurts more the reputation of the player? Doing it intentionally to have advantage over the game and knowingly cheat, or just don't know about the rule and do it by mistake? What Hazed is doing is accusing Jhow of doing the first option without really knowing, this is hate towards VK's player and it's not cool at all.

I'm not arguing if this is his fault or not. You are misunderstanding what I'm saying. This is absolutely the player and coach's fault, but that doesn't mean he did it intentionally as Hazed said, he did because he is ignorant, not because he is a cheater exploit abuser. Calm down.

I'm not arguing if this is his fault or not. You are misunderstanding what I'm saying. This is absolutely the player and coach's fault, but that doesn't mean he did it intentionally as Hazed said, he did because he is ignorant, not because he is a cheater exploit abuser. Calm down.

Well... He is just being hateful. Doesn't make sense Jhow knowing about the cam and still do it. Would he put his team in a position to be DQed intentionally? I don't think so. The dude doesn't speak english, he could've missed the news about this cam before and everybody uses it on Ranked.

Sad that they notice something that isn't even need to be noticed against BR and to favor BR they didn't notice shit, the game should've been stopped the moment he used that can, have the round restart and give VK a warning.

Because they didn't stop the game when they noticed, this kinda of punishment was fair for after the match, it should've never happened if they stopped the game when they noticed it, also this glitch should've been fixed months ago, and even though the punishment was fair, because they didn't notice it during the game, it literally took Riot 10 hours to decide and give their position on something that already happened before and was obvious what to do.

The punishment was fair. They way it was handled was chaotic, slow and actually should never happened. Still, since teams were punished for it before, it was obvious VK would be punished as well, it's only fair to the teams who received this penalty on other tournaments.

Well. Covid is fastly transmitted, they interacted with those players and end up getting the desease themselves. It spreaded quickly.

Fair enough. Not gonna lie, expected. Since it happened before and this is exactly what they did. I don't agree with this type of punishment, but they should've made it different on the first time, now they can't change, since it would be unfair to the teams punished before.

Nah, you guys banter each other, but against underdeveloped countries is not banter, it's frustration, it's hate, it's annoyance. Those are different things. Against Brazil you guys just can't stand the defeat, hell even against turkey, they suffer the same thing. You come up with excuses, you come up with ways to undermine our achievements, you come up with anything to try and justify the loss. It isn't banter.

There are toxic and annoying people in every country. We all know the real reason is not that.

There's nothing to admit, every country has toxic people and annoying fans. We all know the real reason behind the hate.

1 - Derke
2 - Heat
3 - Sacy

It was always us against them. EU and NA just feel superior to underdevolped countires, and when we face them and beat them at something, they just turno to hate. There's nothing else they can do, even more on videgames, they are much more advanced technology wise and still lose. They are richer, they have better salary, better PCs, better orgs, better competition, better economy and still lose, what else is left besides hate? They don't hate other developed countires, because there's no reason. The starting line is the same. It's ok to lose to them since they have equal oportunity, but lose to us? It's an outrage, they can't accept, everything that is left is hate.

vira-lata complex. Go live somewhere else idiot

Giants got a map loss, X10 lost the map and ended up disqualified.

Jhow doesn't speak english, people use that cam on ranked all the time. I'm sure he didn't know. You're toxic.

Doesn't make sense. The map should be replayed. It's the best option.

agreed

One thing has nothing to do with the other. VK's camera thing already happened before and was punished.

I desagree, it could be an accident. Jhow doesn't speak english, there's a high possbility that he didn't know it was banned, since everybody uses it on ranked matches, but still. If there's a rulebook stating this cam is banned and he still used they should be punished, since other teams were already banned, because of this cam, I assum there is a rulebook, wich means that VK will be punished, maybe even desqualified.

don't push it cNed alt.

In the next series? What does this has to do with Aced? Weren't they the ones who got harmed by that?

Well... x10 was disqualified. I don't know what to expect, but some punish is comming. Pretty sure.

source?

Yeah... Riot will punish VK. Pretty sure, I can see the map being replayed or VK getting totally disqualified from the tournament, since that was the punishment before.

Well, looking at all the evidence, even though I'm Brazilian, I know VK will be punished, maybe replay the map or even get totally disqualified isn't unjustified, since it happened before in other VCT events. If the cam is banned on the rulebook, x10 was disqualified for it, I can see the same happening wit VK, let's wait and see Riot's position on this.

Isn't the main stream EU?

The cam can be seen from the other side.

So, this can is invisible?

esse cara.... mt engraçado.

The Brazilian casters all got VK winning.

eme dahblew zera

Well... We didn't know what to expect of him playing sova.

RIOT is waiting for the match point.

It's gonna be a massacre for VK. 13x6 13x4 VK.

Nobody said they would've beaten SEN, we are saying that SEN was given an unfair advantage and this is facts. They could still win, FURIA could still lose, the thing is... we will never know.

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That sure wasn't listed, since it's never been an exploit. Ever.

I never said we lost because of the tech. I said that it helped SEN. That's a fact. You getting flamed has nothing to do with crying and making up excuses because of a loss. Are you dumb?

What are the other options? TenZ already said that Riot paused BECAUSE of the C box jump.

It's a support thing man... Idk how japanese people are, but here in Brazil people love to cheer, we are like that for football, for volleyball, for CSGO, we party when we win, we get mad when we lose, it's a videogame, but isn't it the same as a sport though?

I'm not actually crying though, am I? I just explained the motive behind the rage. There are only two options for that pause, or Riot doesn't know their own game, or they helped SEN, it's one or the other, both look really bad for them. What other ocasion did Brazilians complain in valorant? Please enlighten me.

I don't support death threats and I didn't do those. Just showing why the fanbase got so mad, there's a reason for that. Imagine your football team lose by an illegal goal and the other team starts trashing your team knowing they won because of that? That would trigger people, just saying.

True, SEN adm on twitter possibly didn't even know RIOT favored SEN when he made that banter, but the tweet escalated the rage.

Exactly. There are only two options. Or Riot doesn't know their own game, cause that jump is being made till beta, or they literally helped SEN. 15 minutes pause makes the 2nd option more convincing.