bruh kinda obvious.. the orgs make nothing back on the investment even if they win Champs and come second in Masters. There is not much in it for them yet

its Liquid yay

yeah lol.. derke especially has been crying everywhere on how NA makes these salaries.. he even went on to say he wants to move to NA eventually for the $$$.. no wonder aspas wants to look at opportunities

crashies will still be preferred by Chet as skye, sova

saadhak and crashies can play breach and sova on double initiator maps
saadhak can play KJ when aspas and victor play double duelists
i think saadhak and victor have a big agent pool.. i dont see role issues to be a big problem

Aspas, Saadhak, Marved, Crashies, Victor

ffs... i have to wait till 2025 for EMEA to win anything

taking screenshots of custom matches from streams and reporting it as "trials" and roster moves as if most of it isnt serious.. where are these gremlins now lol

as usual downvoted for speaking the truth : https://www.vlr.gg/post/2765590/i-need-your-help

i literally said mCE is not guarenteed yet on the team so it doesnt matter who u screenshot him "trialing" because its all just pugs and Riot is coming up with salary caps which means most if not ALL teams will be cutting salaries.

pro hater/ EU daddy
get paid in EU fans' tears

go ask him on stream.. he has already replied saying he will just be a content creator

This is the last article from the dude : https://www.vlr.gg/263714/jinggg-to-leave-paper-rex-in-2024
It literally takes 0 effort to write this "piece" and any highschooler could put that together in less than 10 minutes.. getting paid for this shit is equal to stealing a paycheck..
No wonder they spend more time convincing others what they do requires skill than doing any actual work.

Agreed. But so do 100% of VLR articles which these nerds write.. They literally take information already known to anyone with a Twitter account or if you watch a match - they just write what happened with links. The point they are making is somehow what they do takes more effort and a degree with skill when it doesnt.

show proof

apart from everyone mentioned above - kyedae and shazam.. kyedae is just annoying, entitled kid who complains 24/7 about the game and never feels grateful how much she makes out of a videogame she isnt even good at. shazam just has an annoying af squeaky voice that puts me off

both seems like ur just a simple "hi" away from getting banned from their chat.

yeah but somehow they have some our EU teams on a dog leash.. like after this match, i couldnt sleep : https://www.vlr.gg/220446/team-liquid-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubsf/?game=132707&tab=overview

anyone who wears The Guard flair on this website should be perma banned aswell. why is the flair even available

Flyuh will not play in Tier 1/Franchised org in NA 2024. I can guarantee you that. Doing well in T2 is team dependent. There is a reason why the best player from 2022 had such bad stats in NA T2. There is a reason why old, tested rosters of The Guard and M80(Ghost Gaming) went the distance. Working in Tier 2 does not guarantee you a position in Tier 1, you can do your best, not win, take a hit on ur stats and be shelved as a Tier 2/3 player for life.

there is no guarentee of that. even those who played well in tier 2 like M80, MxM players have little to no guarentee of playing franchised. Also as I said doing well in T2 is team dependent, if you dont have a good team all your stats get affected. Its a lose-lose situation. He said at that point, its a matter of whether u want to compete because of money, streaming covers it for him so he continued that.

hopefully they find someone who gives a fuck

and i could also say look at yay or other major winners like Shazam or Dapr. You need a solid team to prove yourself in T2, not everyone has the core of The Guard or M80(Ghost Gaming) to support them. NA Tier 2 is really competitive, players like Skrossi wouldnt even find a team in T2.

Keep hating brother, there is nothing wrong in calling yourself the best.. its called self belief. Its easy to have it when you are up but it is more important to believe in oneself when the chips are down. Nothing wrong with streaming, everyone does it - especially when its your only job.

He trialed and wasnt picked up. He doesnt wanna play in T2, thats his choice.. and he wants to try again now. Whats wrong with that?

World Champion Ethan was also part of the 13-0 100T team. Yall like to make fun of pros and then back peddle like bitches. If anything I've learnt never to make fun of any pro from NA. Goodluck BabyJ, if EG/Potter can shutup these neckbeards, so can you.

its actually possible

thats what im saying lil bro.. EG dodged Navi, Liquid and Global Esports too.. what do u mean none of them made it past the groups?

tons of immortal+ players are of that age group.. my point is no one mentions or knows them.

V1 is as actual as it gets for a team and coaching staff.. what do u want Sentinels or LOUD to sign her?

until she is not.. whats the point of hyping her up considering there are several 16 year olds who are as good and dont get the same hype.

now.. if only valve had enough money to make an actual anti cheat that works

what a mental gymnastic

i can guarentee you the guy above you doesnt know either.. infact most people dont. its impossible to keep up and if you ask, then it is offensive.

Ok this "anybody esports" still has to get the 5 players who won, on their own contract.. Most of them could have huge buyouts and the winning org can still enforce their contracts and not release the players unless those buyouts are paid. Example : Optic couldnt stay together because yay's buyout was twice as big as some of the others and no org was willing to pay for all 5..

In this scenario, the winning org is literally selling the spot. If you just allow "anybody esports" to pick any players and participate in an open market then again it is unfair to the 5 who won. Again, NO - Riot cannot just null and void the contract between the players and the organization.

you could simply replace accent with race or color of skin or religion and see if it still sounds right

FNS made that team.. even Chet was bought from TSM. Boaster did not make shit.. he glued the best players together under the Fnatic banner

true and real lol.. the fact that Liquid won 1 match on the international stage tells you everything you need to know about the EMEA league.

no it wasnt? LOUD anti-strat him, if anything it is mini and boaster and other coaches at fault for not preparing againt LOUD

BiliBili would've had Liquid on a leash and ZETA clears Liquid too. Not to mention NRG kicked Liquid out of Tokyo in their head to head they are 1-0. Just cause ur favorite team is in a group doesnt make it a group of death

so all other teams are allowed to trade players in the open market but whoever got the slot has to keep the 5 and not even consider players like FNS? sounds a like a shit deal nobody will take + gives players the immunity that no other Franchised player has

I know right, lol. I dont know why I even bothered.

that is not true at all.. while Riot has batted for player termination friendly contracts they cannot make a contract null and void at their whim. There is a reason why players are stuck in contract jails.. as long as the winner (The Guard) does not breach rules which disqualifies them from participating in Tier 2.. they are free to keep their players and continue playing in Tier 2. Players in that case, will do as the org wants as they would rather play in franchise

you are finding ways of how it cannot happen.. the fact is Riot is only looking at ways corruption and loopholes can be introduced. If they think there are ways to abuse the system they will try to block it.

In almost all situations in eSports, orgs have more power than the team or players. Org which wins the Ascension can simply deny selling their players to whatever org..

this is where there are loopholes and ways to sell your spot?

The Guard or DSG(winner) can simply hold on to the players, deny to sell whoever gets the spot unless they get a piece of the pie. Riot cannot force players and orgs to cancel their contracts. Moreover another issue is how can Riot tell the ONE org who gets the spot that they have to retain these players meanwhile every other org gets to participate in the open transfer market?

yeah I know, I mean people are acting as if they know better than a complete team of administrators who have successfully worked with eSport orgs.. Riot is no baby when it comes to eSports and how they wanna run their shit.

The team and players can 100% work together and this case is a classic example of how a slot can be SOLD.

DSG wins Ascension 2024. DSG does not want to commit to partnership. DSG has already spent money winning Acension. G2 wants partnership but has a dogsht team who couldnt do it. DSG and G2 can come to an agreement about buyouts and anything else under the table which Riot is not aware of. DSG does not sign the documents and now the 5 players are F/A. The 5 choose G2 as free agents.

Do you not see this happening?

DSG wins Ascension 2024. DSG does not want to commit to partnership. DSG has already spent money winning Acension. G2 wants partnership but has a dogsht team who couldnt do it. DSG and G2 can come to an agreement about buyouts and anything else under the table which Riot is not aware of. DSG does not sign the documents and now the 5 players are F/A. The 5 choose G2 as free agents.

Do you not see this happening?

Bro you are an idiot lol. Reread what Leo has said.. it opens a door for Ascension orgs which have won to sell off their spot. That could happen in a hundred different ways.. Its not just what has happened with the guard. No org would care to win Ascension when you can pay buyouts + whatever the org wants and get the slot.. that could AGAIN, happen in a hundred different ways

Its not just what has happened in this case.. in the future aswell - as Leo said it opens the door for winning Ascension orgs to sell off their slots if they dont wanna commit to partnership. That could happen in over a hundred different ways, most of which will not even be under Riot's control

You obviously have no clue. You dont know if they are not making any money.. there is potential to make money in the future if not in The Guards case.