Yeah but it's a new IGL, we don't know what their Bind looks like. FNS calling was absolutely critical for their success on Bind.
And even last year, NRG wasn't great on Bind, they lost a lot of Bind games.
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Yeah but it's a new IGL, we don't know what their Bind looks like. FNS calling was absolutely critical for their success on Bind.
And even last year, NRG wasn't great on Bind, they lost a lot of Bind games.
Bind is their best map
Bro knows something we don't
Top 4 in NA maybe, but not in Americas
Yeah, the reason being Guild and Gambit weren't accepted into franchising.
I didn't watch much of Champs because of time zones, but the attack half on Split against EDG (the game they barely managed to win in OT) was just such an IGL diff, he outcalled EDG so hard in that game. Still got close because EDG's attack was also pretty good but Redgar could never
D3ffo also went crazy on LAN and saved them a lot of attack rounds tbh (like the knives ace against 100T on Ascent)
TH Madrid home crowd buff incoming?
Wait he can play in Madrid already?? Holy, imagine TH in front of home crowd, would go hard
https://www.vlr.gg/173223/team-heretics-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w1
https://www.vlr.gg/183947/team-liquid-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/183953/team-vitality-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3
I think they meant a team with a full Korean roster. T1 is Korean, but not all of the players are.
Nah, T1 clears because they have 6 players (Rossy is twice as tall as everyone in Asia)
I feel like it was always gonna be random and they just communicated it poorly
What happened moatz? Is it because you're a diehard EU fan?
I think in the middle of the EMEA qualifiers for Berlin 2021
lol i didn't even look at that, i was just looking at the patch
yeah for sure, he was definitely a good jett back in the days
Right but we were talking about the Andbox days, right? Since you said yay was good even before Envy.
This was the last game he played pre patch 2.1. After that, he only played one more tournament with Andbox (the stage 3 qualifier) before going to Envy.
Is that so? Looking at the update history on the Valorant Wiki, it says
v1.0 Cloudburst duration increased 4 >>> 7
v2.1 Cloudburst duration decreased 7 >>> 4.5
v3.06 Cloudburst charges reduced 3 >>> 2
v7.04 Cloudburst duration decreased 4.5 >>> 2.5
FNC lost a map to BBL in 2023, it's just part of the process
Don't forget each of the 3 smokes lasted 7 seconds (which is almost half the duration of an Astra/Omen smoke)
It wasn't a fluke, they were genuinely good at the time (they also won EMEA stage 1 and placed 4th at Champions). They just fell off
Just shoot the people who have those abilities, ez
Yeah no hate to TENNN, but Dep looks great on Raze and doesn't have to play Sofa on Ascent any more so TENNN can play Raze. This new Zeta looks much better.
Can't believe TENNN took this from us for so long. Dep truly is the mwzera of Pacific
I mean they were the 2nd best EMEA team at Champs, how is it unreasonable to put them top 3 lol
Agreed. Sometimes he was still rambling about a round while the next one had already started. It's not like any of what he was saying was wrong or anything, it just felt like he should have tried to make his point in fewer words, and keep more of a balance between him and Pansy in terms of speaking time. But I don't blame him, you have to analyse super fast in these moments, and being super concise on the spot like that is really hard.
But I'd love to see him cast more and get better at it, maybe in the VCL NA.
Lev is carried by Aspas (Brazilian), Loud is Brazilian, and NRG is carried by Demon1, who my insider sources are telling me was actually born on the streets of Belo Horizonte
ngl I think you could have edited this a bit more to make it more Simp4S0m themed, so that's your homework for next week mr desk
Can't get grouped in Madrid if there's no group stage
I think this is one for the intellectuals (like me). Will probably go over the average vlr users head. Good one, Simp4S0m
That's like 23 posts a day lmaoooo jesus christ
Understandable. Although I guess it just shows how good cNed was at the time when 100T only started winning after they changed their strategy to "find out where cNed is, go to other site"
No, teams from the same group will not play each other in the playoff semi-finals.
If Zeta wins play-ins, DRX and PRX won't play each other in the qualifying match.
Mistic has been to five international tournaments, Enzo to two. They aren't rookies.
EMEA was complete dogshit last year and still went 9-4 against Pacific, it's unlucky really
There is no world where NRG doesn't win at least one
I mean people are blaming the coach for putting him on Viper as if he wasn't involved in that decision at all and is being forced to play those agents against his will
Yeah you make some good points. It's really hard to fit yay into a coherent role that isn't just "Chamber". I personally think "Oper" isn't really a role, as we see players oping on different roles (mostly Jett - Entry and Chamber - Anchor/Lurk-ish), and I think learning how to Op because it fits your agent on a certain map is easier than learning how to play an entirely different role just to make sure you can be the one Oping. Like 2022 Loud had both Aspas and Less oping depending on the comp.
But yeah after thinking about it a bit more I do agree that Viper probably isn't really the way to go (although I still think it's a better fit than Skye). Yay's biggest strength in 2022 was probably his insane consistency at holding down angles; and Victor and Crashies were used to set him up on strong angles. Chamber is surely by far the best agent at that, and is more than playable on a bunch of different maps, and I agree that Bleed should try to play around that more than they currently do.
I just struggle a bit to imagine that playstyle working on any agents not named Chamber. Also Bleed definitely will have a much less effective support system to enable that compared to Optic. That's why I do think yay needs to be a bit more flexible. Bleed won't be able to make a perma Chamber system work in the current meta.
Victor took so much shit throughout 2022, even from some Optic fans. He basically sacrificed his image (as a player) to make yay look like a god.
Optic in 2022 built all their gameplans around yay on Chamber. The whole meta was constructed around Chamber. Team comps were built around Chamber. It's a very heavy investment. You had Victor practically inting on Neon and Raze just to set up yay for favourable fights. You also had one of the best IGLs in Valorant history behind him.
I think he could probably do decently on Chamber even on Bleed, but it won't be anywhere near Optic yay, because Bleed will not (and honestly, should not) build their whole structure around that.
I think Viper makes sense on paper for his playstyle. On most maps you just place the same wall and orb every round, and you can (de)activate them easily without having to unequip your gun. Players like Less (who also played some Chamber in 2022) do really well on Viper. He'll just have to become more self-sufficient.
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