Didnt geng play ascent vs loud?ok I just went back and yeah Geng ascent looks good.So sen gonna ban Breeze for sure.Then Geng ban Sunset.That leaves sen pick split,geng ascent,sen lotus,geng icebox,bind decider?

oh fuck my fault then.That was a dumbass take from him then.I thought he said pacific looked shit compared to americas.Yeah pacific def look better than last year ur right about that

thats not how u judge regions.U look at the overall play of the whole region.Why do u think Emea was called a 1 team region last year

nah PRX is just a weird fkin team.They play shit one day and good the next.Its extremely hard to predict what they are gonna do.When prx lost vs Geng they looked clueless.I mean they played 3 duelist,so no wonder people thought prx looked braindead.Prx now at least has changed to comps that make sense,so they are playing better.During kickoff the only team that looked good was geng and maybe t1

I think NRG takes it if loud keeps on playing these shit comps.Assuming NRG now had some time together they should be looking good

yeah I dont see how prx win.Sen needs to be able to play more puggy and they should be able to win.Or they completely shut prx down ,thats another one.

is prx breeze that bad?

Idk wtf happen to sen breeze before halls came back they looked pretty good on it.But sen will most likely ban Breeze.I still think sen wins this no?Sen win split,prx win ascent,sen win lotus,sen win sunset.I don't think prx wins sunset against sen.-

I have a feeling if sen play geng again,its gonna be different.Geng macro play isn't all that complicated.So if sen go back and see the mistakes they made they would be laughing.Breeze sen lose for sure if geng pick.Ascent and icebox is a tossup imo.

I havent seen any1 say that.If they did they are delusional

yeah

Hell naw,Loud woulda beat NRG for sure.I think people are overestimating NRG.They are still a new team

But geng probably pick breeze first no?

U never know tbh.Idk why ur discounting split.Today they couldn't play on split but they def have a chance on split.Now the question comes down to breeze,icebox and ascent.Idk how good geng is on ascent.Sen's icebox isn't terrible,so they can have a chance there.I think the biggest thing sen needs to make sure against Geng is to make sure they are ready for timings and their aggeresive playstyle.If they can do that then they should be fine because Geng's overall macro isn't that difficult to understand.

If u mean the streamers they didn't do it same reason as I stated above.Why would they already kick a player thats been doing well just off of one game?If tenz played bad from the beginning then he'd get dogged on the same way.

Well then joke in a way where u also acknowledge their past games?It seems like when a player loses a game they are immediately "washed" or should be dropped?At least thats the vibe im getting from everyone.People acting like tenz didnt play exteremely well the tourney?Havoc and Berlin didn't do well at all the tourneys.So why would they get praise at all?

Well its cause tenz has been playing amazing so far.So many matches and he did very good.So cant really say he is 'washed' when he has had amazing performances so far.Havoc and Berlin didn't.They dont have the resume to back that.

its to jinx

He is no 1 for sure

They wont .Gen g plays braindead with timings.Sen took too long to realize this.Gen g has a basic ass gameplan and just play off of individuals.If sen dont let them play individually sen win

Nah sen need to start disrespecting gen g.Gen g just peeks through shit,sen gottta do the same.

Sen are giving gen g too much respect,they need to start playing braindead as well

Idk man it seems like he gets 1 clutch per game but also loses more rounds

bro how are sen letting gen g get away with these timings?

I think its more timings that they are losing to.Gen g peeks shit that Sen aren't expecting them to

Gen g just peeks through smokes and take timings.Sen has to take timings faster there or hold the smokes.

Geng's playstyle is throwing them off so hard.Gen g peeks through shit,sen dont expect that it looks like.

gotta be real geng anti was good

Double elim still chances

Where u at moron?Semen1 needs to go

maybe in a 100 or so years

uk what they mean.Swiss is basically a glorified group stage

I think the eg team is good.If they stick for a year they will probably do good.

yeah bro,shooting bodies is nothing new.A lot of people have done it.Heretics coulda shot body back too and nobody would care.But them mfs were standing up and yelling and shit every round and then got pounced.Then prx talked their shit and ur flipping out.Idk why.It was embarassaing for heretics cause they were the ones standing up and shit every round and then lost.U seeing my point?

what that gotta do w anything here.We are talking about prx and heretics.Every team trash talks,thats fine.People were mad at prx for trash talking Heretics,when Heretics were the ones who started being excessive against prx.Then they got mad that prx trash talked back.Like what?

thats EDG,they been rivals.What does Heretics gotta do w it?Heretics started it,and prx gave it back to them up the ass

Yall still playing val?

it def does.U just said "There's way too many examples of the best team in the world not being able to win an event because they lack experience in the big moments as I mentioned above".The best teams in the world didn't start out as best teams.They were nooby teams that got better over time.The lack of experience u speak of is there for every new team.Idk why ur tryna point out that fact and insinuating that heretics is just inexperienced and they could come back and win champs.Thats why I said I could say that about c9 and that they are also an inexperienced team and could come back and win champs.

Yeah and thats what im tryna say,they will crumble which is fine.They can come back stronger,we dont need to make excuses for them.

Do u think they were best teams in the world first? or they became best teams later?I could gamble and say cloud 9 gonna be the best team by the end.U see how braindead it sounds?

Yes and performing under pressure is a part of being a competitor.If u crumble under pressure,ur not cut out.Like what?This guy is tryna make excuses but experience has always played a factor.Guy is making up scenarios in his head to convince himself that heretics gonna come back and win champs like what?Too early to say anything.

Bro this is just pure speculation.Like what?

u could say that about any new team.Which could be true,could be not,we dk the internals of a team.Idk why ur tryna make excuses bro.

idk bout mickey mouse,still a masters tourney.But fnatic is a good team,they just never experienced being down like that in a while.They will probably fix their mistakes and be a top team again dw.Its just the beginnig of the year.

yeah and that is fine bro.Teams have ups and downs,rn they are worse,but they can get better thats the point I am making.They have plenty of time.Enjoy the teams that are doing well rn thats just valorant.

u mean aim?sure.I meant more gameplay wise.

But imagine tho?u never know,we can only hope a god descends down on earth.Imagine how hype that would be

scrim in no way was better than tenz.Maybe hs%?Idk i just feel like scream tries to play valorant like cs and it just doesn't work out

yeah shouldn't have lost that one,thats what happens when u play worse.Its fine tho they got the whole year ahead to get better

well by worse I mean they probably couldn't adapt to the evolving game u could say.Not like their skill disappeared from 2021,it just didn't game any better but the game did.Tenz is the only one I could say was so far ahead of everyone else in 2021 in raw skill that he is still that skilled guy and on top of that now that he has a good structured team,has been able to evolve himself into this 2024 version.