I consider Andbox tier 1. But I don't consider DarkZero tier 1 yet.

Not tier 1. If they beat another tier 1 team or two. Then they'll be tier 1. But just beating one tier 1 team isn't quite enough.

Broooo how do you think that dude has good takes. He's a fnatic fan ewwww. jikjk. He is one of the better users but half the time he has pepega takes but the other half they are pog takes.

good take.

If TSM meet V1 first match. And they beat V1. I will acknowledge that TSM are tier 1. But I find it unlikely. I don't acknowledge them as tier 1 just because they beat a tier 1 team once. I mean Entropiq once beat Heretics in the open qualifiers for EU but they weren't considered tier 1. Because it was just once. If Tsm do it against V1 with Zellsis and wippie. I will acknowledge TSM as a tier 1 team. And I will buy all the copium at my local grocery store.

Andbox choked so hard. Literally someone help yay bro.

T1 look too good to lose this honestly. I really like how BBG look. But if T1 don't qualify when they look this good. I will be sad.

Wait until V1 beat up TSM's ass. Then I can finally get rid of this piece of shit.

I feel like people forgot about Zendyris. I mean at least Netero has takes. Zendyris was just a little bitch. I mean Acount123 is also becoming that but let's see. People who wish for people to die or make fun of IRL situations are just kinda not good people. But other than that. Most people are fine.

Honestly none of the popular trolls(Netero, ChuappiWardell, Getsy's) on this website are actually even that bad. I think the ones that hide under ChupappiWardells ass are worse honestly. They have even worse takes honestly. But unlucky really. Chupappi is funny unlike some other TSM fans.

C9 3-1 GEN.G

Just watch the main stream lmao. I actually like the main castors. I feel like they get so much hate when they're actually really good.

sadge. hopefully GEN.G beat TSM. Some team gotta beat the shit out of TSM so I can actually be happy with myself. And then I can change my flair to them. I'm crying that ABX and DZ literally choked so hard. :(((

Shanty legit has good takes. Firell probably carries the whole entire vlr.gg forums page bc he has like 1600 posts lmaoo. But he does a little baiting but he's usually chill. Don't know where redlightdistrict went. The T1 fans are honestly pretty good on this website though.

Shanty or redlightdistrict or Firell.

sus. I mean you can only hope. C9 look strong rn. So uhh yea. You can only really hope but yea it's unlikely that they lose.

Andersin is a complete viper player right now. Zombs plays the other smoke agents as well. It's not as easy as a 1 to 1 transfer. I guess it would be possible but with a player that is just viper only. The team has to play differently. Not really to support the player. But just to get the full value out of it. I guess Shahzam could incorporate him in. But I think how solid anchor zombs and the fact that he is their main smoker and can flex on to most of the smoke agents is really good. I just think Andersin is a really strong player. I actually think he's better than zombs at the moment just because of how much value he can always bring. But I don't think he's a good replacement for zombs. It's like replacing Hazed on TSM with like Jammyz. Ofc I would say that Jammyz is the better player. But hazed is a part of the core of the team(other than the fact that he is an IGL). And he is more of a main smoker where he doesn't need an astra to make sure that his viper smokes cover everything.

Yea. V1 added wippie after player1. I feel bad for player1 because he is not the problem of any of the teams he leaves. But wippie is a monster of a player. Honestly I don't think it's a stretch to say that he's the player that pushed them into tier 1 because of how much the viper helped. I mean Version 1 also abused the meta lmao so that probably also helped.

Agreed.

I'm pretty sure the brackets are just like different seeds. And it's not based off of win loss on maps. So I don't believe that TSM are playing here but who knows.

I don't believe so.

I mean I should be justified for my points that TSM isn't Tier 1 yet. Even if they beat Tier 1 teams. Like Andbox. They still have to prove themselves against more teams.

They were tier 1. a year ago..

I mean.. If KCP beat V1. It doesn't mean they're Tier 1. Just like how if TSM beat ABX. They're not Tier 1 yet.

C9 2-0 Rise. (if this is how it's seeded.)

GEN.G 2-0

gMd brimstone lurk too strong.

EDIT: Guys remember that this GEN.G is with Nature now. No Huynh so this team plays very differently. Like they have much more flexible comps and honestly if they play their cards right. They could literally play any style they want. I wonder what they'll pull out but it could really be anything so all vods on this team are probably going to be useless and if the GEN.G coach helps the team enough. Then they can probably counter how TSM plays without TSM ever knowing how they play.

But this is just speculation. I think this'll still be a close game but probably GEN.G win.

Also I'm going to guess the pick and bans and who wins. But GEN.G is changing a ton same with TSM so this'll prob be all wrong.

REMEMBER THIS IS MEANT TO BE PEPEGA IF WRONG KEKW.

GEN.G win 2-1.

GEN.G ban Ascent. (They've started banning it near the end of challengers 2 and honestly I think their Ascent also looked pretty eh compared to their other maps)
TSM ban Breeze. (Well I would think they do this unless they start learning the map in which case this'll have the preds change a ton.)

GEN.G pick Bind. GEN.G win 13-9. TSM pick defense. (This sounds like a completely dumb idea but honestly they did try to have an interesting comp on this map so I think they might try to develop it. And I liked how they played it.)

TSM pick Haven. TSM win 13-11. GEN.G pick defense. (TSM starts being pepega and let GEN.G go from 5-11 when TSM are at 12.)

GEN.G pick Split or Icebox. Whichever they start practicing. I think TSM would pick attack for Icebox and defense for Split like any normal team. If Split. I think GEN.G take this in over time 15-13. If on Icebox I think it's a 13-8. (GEN.G might pick Split or Icebox instead first but who knows. I feel like GEN.G has so much time to practice and scrim and if the team just works on some maps to make them very complete. TSM probably lose.)

Remember. This is V1 with Zellsis. If TSM win this I will acknowledge them as T1 but if not they'll stay T2.

GEN.G
C9
NV

This is totally not a bait guys.

Lakia

I thought it was going to hit xeppaa's house. wait did i get the wrong script.

You should go see a doctor or a therapist.

yes

Okay seriously, there is this boy who i keep texting all the time. i always text him first, almost every day. i keep asking him to play games, but he kept making excuses for him to not play with me, and he STILL keeps ignoring me as if hes not interested.
So today he finally joined a game with me. We played a game, and i was begging him to vc. We vc'd a little and when the game ended he told me he has to leave again giving an excuse.
How can i tell him that im interested in him?

Like, dont get me wrong, he is so pretty ngl, but i just dont want to look too desperate

I want to. But DZ have to win. I'm crying that I have to use this flair but hopefully andersin brings me home.

:)

You could watch moothie play viper on haven like a year ago. He was on C9 korea.

ewww not to fnatic.

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH ANDERSIN WTF HOW ARE YOU SO GOOD. WIN THIS GAME SO I CAN BE FREED FROM THIS FLAIR.

yes

It does 50 per pulse. And it has 3 pulses or smth. It kills.

If yes I'm changing my flair to DZ to join Hiyo in the clearly superior fanbase.

#TSMLOSE SO FREE FOR ANDERSIN

Hopefully I'm right.

Classic decent take from NV fans. Thank you very much. Hopefully this shuts up ChupappiWardell about him giving Wardell a sloppy toppy every 10 minutes.

At least that's what I'm guessing. Hopefully DZ beat the shit out of TSM so I can switch to their flair to join HiyoHello on the DZ fanbase which is at least better than this shithole.

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EU played a ton of breach in Challengers 1 stage 3. Not sure abt this challengers bc I didn't watch too many of the matches but the breach play looks good af.

Yikes

Is it happening boizz. Skye is really strong. Breach got stronger. Sova nerfed a little but practically still necessary a lot of the times. Kayo has a ton of strong util.

What are your guys thoughts on this.

I was dogging on him before when he was like bot fragging hard on jett in ghost for some reason and it seemed to not work. But it's working now so Idky people are hating on this dude now.

f0rsaken is the best.