They only played Yoru on Split at Toronto and played only 1 yoru(zekken) on only Ascent in the 1st game against G2 in stage 2. Zekken didnt play single yoru after that game and SEN perma banned Ascent till the end of the season.

But Narrate could play raze, jett, yoru stuff because he played it on KC. And on KC Marteen was playing yoru and Narrate was playing dive duelist and it was working there. They just needed to replicate that on SEN

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How are you arguing me about what SEN played last year? I am saying they didnt put zekken on yoru after tejo nerfs and they did in fact play double duelist as you can see from the game above.

Narrate was playing Yoru at that time not zekken and they dont have to force waylay. Just put zekken on yoru and narrate on traditional dive duelist. This just works much better because zekken is more reserved player but narrate just sends it. It wouldve been much better

SEN didnt play yoru after tejo nerfs and when they played occasional double duelist it was Narrate on yoru instead of zekken.

He didnt play any yoru after stage 1. Thats why I am criticizing

I am really happy zekken and MIBR won today but this just reminded me of how bad the SEN comps were last year. Kaplan really saw everyone playing yoru and PRX turning around their season just because something learned yoru and just said "Nah we will not play any yoru, lets try narrate on breach and john on sova instead, surely this will work out".
Zekken dropped 1.35 rating on reigning world champions on Yoru and got like 15 first kills on 2 maps.

And now Kaplan is forcing NARRATE to play waylay on every map even when he looks so uncomfortable on it. SEN need coach change

Ara went 1-4 in first engagements on attack. I still think that Abyss comp isnt that good

I feel like they should change this playstyle tho. Valorant as a game is designed for duelists to frag more and take over, duelists have the best signature abilities and best ults imo, all the initiator util is to set them up for success, smokes are for them to enter sites safely and even sentis job is to stop duelists.
That might be the reason why EU hasnt won a trophy since 2023 cuz dounle duelist APAC and star-duelist NA playstyles are just better

How is solo yoru Haven ideal comp? Its not gonna get any rounds on attack if the opponent just holds chokes. Neon is good on defense anyway for fast floods, fast rotates and even oping (remember how texture awped with neon).
Solo waylay Abyss might work out but duelist is gonna have rough time compared to double duelist with yoru

EMEA duelists are rarely the best players in their team and usually they are ranked just above the igl in terms of fragging. You can just see across the board:
M8: Best: Minny duelists are 3rd and 4th
NAVI: Best: Hiro and Ruxic
TH: Best: Riens
GX: Best: Westside? Its certainly not ara tho
etc.
Only teams where you might argue their best players are duelists are VIT, FNC and BBL. Thats it.
Meanwhile in other regions almost every teams best player is their duelist.

Its not only duelists fault tho. EMEA have very weird read on the meta where duelists are not given chances to frag. Just look at GX Abyss solo waylay, so many teams solo Yoru on Haven, some teams solo waylay on Corrode.
If they want their solo duelist to succeed and frag more they have to play neon, raze or jett.

How about an agent that steals/copies abilities and ults in Valorant? To balance him a bit make him only able to steal regular abilities from teammates and "e" ability/signature ability can only be stolen once. And his ult can only be stealen from the opponent if only he kills the opponent.
Pro play would go crazy with all the counter tactics

No I dont watch many EMEA games especially if they are one sided, I am speaking from watching mainly APAC and Americas.

VCT until top 10 in cs play against each other

Why do pros struggle so much against waylay saturate when its pretty much the same as other stuns? We have seen so mamy pros get kills or multikills even when stunned before but right now waylay saturate looks like the best util in pro play.
For me in ranked I dont feel much difference because I dont get many kills while stunned as pros do, I get a kill maybe in 1/30 stunned moments while pros get like in 1/4. But with saturate this seems like 1/15 or 1/20. Its really weird

Bro even the players know this team doesnt have any hope. You can just visually see Kellys and Berserx baiting the whole team the entire time to statpad so they might survive roster rebuilds.

Imagine getting anhiliated by new rising team NAVI, throwing a really close game against Liquid and you go down the lower bracket and you have to play Fnatic. Just imagine it lol

Its honestly impressive to build a Turkish team that is absolutely horrible and cant shoot back at all when there is so much Turkish talent in EMEA.

Reduxx could play Perma yoru or flex around if he wants.

This is not the typical hate thread. I just want him on something different than waylay. He is insanely good mechanically, he has shown it last year as well, if you go through SEN's match history he was the best performer in 80% of the matches after stage 1.

I think he should play Jett, raze or neon depending on the map. Just look at Pacific and EMEA, not everyone is playing waylay, you can still win with other agents. Also they are not utilizing waylay saturate combos well enough to the point that they must play waylay instead of other duelists. Just play jett on Abyss and Breeze, Raze on Bind and Split, Neon on the other maps.

Its still possible to turn around this Kickoff. They are not that far from being really good. They came really close to beating what I consider 4th best team in Americas right now so there is still a chance to qualify if they improve just a bit.

SEN isnt an org that should be ok with losing to top 5 team. We need to be top 3 in the region with the resources and paycheck the players get

Thats the most frustrating this about last years roster. Zekken literally dropped 1.5 rating on MIBRs head just carrying on Yoru in stage 1 playoffs and kaplan went "Nah we dont need to play the most OP agent in the game" and didnt play single yoru after that

After seeing that series just thinking john almost carried 1v5 against 100T's best roster in a long time and john used to be 3rd-4th best player in 2024 roster is just mental. We had probably the best player in the world (top 3 at least), 2 legendary players who are both top 10 all time and best vibes guy ever.
Now only John remains on this roster.

All the nostalgy aside, Kaplan needs to get called out for all the atrocities he is comitting with switching Narrates roles around. He is wasting such a good player. At first when he joined, Kap put Narrate into senti role, then switched him to perma breach then into scan (when he actually played well) and now he is switching him to duelist. He didnt play single yoru when everyone was playing yoru and Narrate actually looked comfortable on scan and fragging well. Even last years roster couldve had much better results if Kaplan played some Yoru.

Yeah fr, how is someone literally called temo is farming us? Insane how we lost all the quality players

Bro how is this team so auraless? Even when we had shroud 100T barely won against us and now everyone in 100T is swinging like they are playing against gold players.

There has been 7 maps and SEN played double duelist in 6 of them so far. But there hasnt been single map where SEN's duelist topfragged. Can you understand how insane that is? There bas been like 13 tries on 7 maps and none of them topfragged.

You might say john is taking over blah blah but for flex player to take over duelists must have a rough game so that flex player has to step up. SEN need to change their duelist. I think they might have 2 worst performing duelists in NA so far

Oh most importantly I forgot to add current performance from Keznit could be up there

Even tho Jett is fallen out of the meta good Jetts are still so fun to watch. Jett who just swings everyone with dash and dominates is so satisfying. We have seen some really good Jett performances already, Aspas vs NV, Larok vs FNC, koala vs SEN were all really amazing, better to watch than any good yoru or chamber stuff

Thats not the topic and I am not saying SEN will win. I am just saying its a tradition for 100T to look really good in early stages with some bind games and opponents ban bind against them and they just lose after that. Its been like this for 3 years now

This is exactly type of game 100T loses. 2 really good games against teams who are on their level or better than them but they showed 6 map vods. If LOUD just bans Bind, I am not sure 100T can win another map convincingly against LOUD.
Their corrode comp has a footage now and it struggles on attavk and its similar with their Split comp as well.

You can just see on the most recent round, Vit comp cant do straight up main execs if the opponent just holds smokes

Nah Liquid just need to hold smokes on A main and B main.

Not gonna lie they are getting away with some criminal rounds on their attackside against TL. Especially on Corrode against double smokes they should never be able to do straight up A main or B main execs with no dive comp. NAVI so far look like the best team in EMEA.

Top 4 teams of 2024 are all struggling and they all have similar issues.
GENG and SEN lost their star players and their new pickups arent performing at all
TH and EDG lost their 1 key role player and for the most part they remained stale and never adapted to the new meta. They still have the main core but they both look like they lack creativity

How are my goats Meiy and Lakia are bottom fragging?Unbelievable, that should never be happening. Crazy the times we live in.

He is 24 years old they couldve picked him up much earlier

How bad is talent scouting for TS actually? First they missed out on Patmen and now even Xavi8k seems like a really good player. They also benched invy for some reason and basically gave him to PRX. And they could have even picked some NAOS players because they looked good in Ascencion. Can you imagine how good of a roster TS could build if they had a good management and scouting?
Surely family business needs some wins to actually be profitable or are they okay with being the worst team in Pacific?

Is picking up Comeback instead of Miniboo worst roster move a team in VCT has conciously made?
You might say reduxx instead of zekken, Veqaj instead of Chronicle, qck instead of Aspas are up there but these roster moves were not intentionally made by the team but rather the player
But in this case, TH knowingly dropped Miniboo for Comeback knowing there is gonna be less comms, less chemistry, worse rifling and only better eco farming. Thats it.

Take a sip every time Paperthin say the word "read". Reads, reading and other iterations of read all count

This fact sounds fake but on Breeze attackside(one of the most attacksided maps in the game btw) SEN's both duelists were dead first and not traded and team was put into 3v5 or worse in 8/10 gun rounds.(pistol+follow up eco is not counted)
Can you believe how insane that is? I saw this fact in reddit and couldnt believe it and went back and double checked and its actually true. You might call some rounds unlucky like both getting spammed thru smokes or koala hitting a collat but 8/10 cant be just coincidence.
There has to be deeper problem than just being unlucky or having a bad day.

Still M80 that year were competetive with Guard in tier 2, even if Guard core had been in franchising and M80 were to win Ascencion in 2023, I wouldnt be surprised if they were to qualify to internationals with their roster.
Still you have to admit NA has way better tier 2 talent. Just look at NRG, they had 3 rookies who were playing in tier 2 NA before just the year before.

You cant count BBL's win just yet because they are yet to win against a real EMEA team.

EMEA Ascencion team hasnt made to playoffs in all 3 years of franchising just yet but in every other region that isnt the case.

Apeks losing both of their players just proves my point doesnt it? Because players just dont trust they can succeed with their teammates but thats not the case with other regions.

2g is exception for Americas tier 2 tho not the rule. Every other Ascencion team has been good. G2 are still world beaters, NV look at least mid-table, M80 if they ascended wouldve been competetive at least because their roster was good in both years (Johnqt, eeiu, koala, nismo, zander, net, bcj etc.)

But in EMEA every Ascention team has been bottom feeders, without exception

How bad is EMEA playerbase actually?

• Last year Ascencion teams went 1-19 in regular season
• EMEA hasnt won a title since 2023.
• Only tier2 players who might occasionally perform are just Turkish players
• Almost every NA player who goes there just pops off (koala, penny, seven, less)

Is Lewn the most overhyped player from last year?
-Only good on Jett/Raze
-Inconsistent performances in aregular season
-Dropped stinkers in every qualification game
-Cant play Yoru

And still got picked up for KC instead of Marteen who was great at Yoru, had one really good stage and played alright even with all the harbor stuff.

I think they need a coach change

Yeah because you can see attacking team just doesnt know how to play this map at all.

Its been like 4 years now and still EMEA dont know how to play this map. You cant B split heavy thru mid ever on Pearl, if you ever want to hit B you must do it thru B long. But still PCIFIC tried B splitting thru street like in 3 buy rounds. Also they have to take to take pit before planting on A but they never do that.

How has seven been in tier 2 this whole time and not a single NA team didnt pick him up? His role is perfect to pick up as well, so many teams need fragging flex player.
How did Zellsis, Asuna, Xeppa survive in tier 1 for this long? I am not saying Asuna and Xeppa are worse players or they need to be dropped immediately but seven not even being rumored for a team this whole time is just strange.
It could just be EMEA is shit and he is simply farming but his aim looks way better than Zellsis at least

I dont think thats true, if player is allowed to bring in their mouse and keynoard to the stage, everything is possible. What is preventing to bring in flashdrive and just install amlock app? Also riot admins and producers would be busy telecasting interviews or pre-match studio discussions during the player setting up process. I dont think its impossible

Do you think anyone has cheated in a official VCT match? So many players who transitioned from other games to Valorant has been caught cheating before and I saw some clips about some of these players who are still playing in tier 1.
As far as I know Riot uses a different client and servers for pro players' accounts so the team who checks our ranked games probably wont review pro games because its in totally different client.
Will we see any player getting caught cheating(aimlock and wallhacks specifically) in upcoming 3 years? If so, who?