i stated above that I think valyn is their best player mechanics wise and game sense, i wasn't clear in the second reply, we'll see this season ig, the original argument about fns is based on a hypothetical, it doesn't matter anyway, we both might be wrong and there might be a third completely different answer to it altogether.

well, you might underestimating valyn and johnqt or i might be underestimating oxy. but I think you are wrong with the leaf and jawgemo, valyn is criminally underrated and unless jawgemo become consistent, valyn will be their best player. ranked doesn't matter, johnqt and valyn are much closer to oxy than you think.

also if you meant igls, then probably fns with oxy mechanics is the best itw, but it's very close, johnqt and valyn are very good mechanically do not underestimate them, infact valyn is the best player on g2 mechanics wise and game sense wise

igling probably valyn and johnqt, also you said best PLAYER itw not the best player who is also an igl.

also I don't think the 'superteam' nrg was better than the later nrg, im inclined to believe they both were atleast equal to each other

i think I watched the vod for the c9 game, but yeah I don't doubt fns as a smart player, but there are many smarter players in tier1 than fns, which is undoubtedly true.
i think there are players who are smarter than fns and have oxy level mechanics already, one example is riens, other is zekken, meteor is another, they are as smart as fns if not smarter, and imo have better mechanics than oxy, riens is the best player in emea right now, he has carried team heretics.
and mind you the players I just listed are top 5 in the world currently (meteor maybe top 8).

also I don't think you realise zellsis has good mechanics, you just see the extremes and guess, the problem isn't his aim

wtf is this, fns with oxys mechanics will be the best player itw? how do you know that you don't know anything about his igling, not how he comms or what his thinking process is like, have you played under him? you don't know how he igls, a good igl won't lose a 12-5 lead

trent is bad
jonahp is mid
leaf has his moments
jawgemo is inconsistent
valyn is good
you can say this about any team yk, you didn't provide any meaningful reasons for your argument. drop the bias.

delete and block the download page using an extension which has like a strict timer, you'll feel withdrawals though

back for the yay comeback?

i used to be like you, but just be calm and try to focus on your gameplay instead of your teammates.

idk about leviathan but he hasn't played yet so I'm gonna take your word

freeing is, hyumin and leviathan are not

i agree, it seems like they don't watch other regions but hyumin is NOT an upgrade over buzz, even though buzz doesn't perform in big matches

buddy do you think chet = nrg, cuz it sure isn't that way legally, nrg is a seperate legal entity, if nrg made comms they had permission, chet is naive to think "oh nrg made comms, i can too" this is like saying if a company buys rights to a trademark, it belongs to an employee, a person must be stupid to think this

fns is pretty stoppable

for the people down voting this, teams have literally leaked scrims and have not been punished by riot one time, that's because riot can't do anything, they don't have the rights to do anything if scrims are leaked

no riot wouldn't get mad at him or anything, the best people can do is not scrim or blacklist sen if they did care, riot wouldn't be involved in anyway

it doesn't matter if nrg didn't care, it's riot content, using it without permission will obviously get you in trouble, this is like adult 101, do not use things owned by others without their permission especially for self beneficial monetary purposes

i think that guy actually meant it, like he was pretty furious about "trans people are people too"

no he said kys before this I deleted it because i didn't want to deal with it but this guy keeps sending messages for some reason

i wrote jk in bracket, does that nullify it

i just sent him one, it's not true i hate him

yeah, i like to complain, im like my goat tenz, also death threats are pretty bad yk

? the guy made an alt not me

ill send you one rn

made an alt to just say kill yourself when I said let trans people are people too

https://imgur.com/a/HIuBMJU
this guy is sending death threats in dms
he also said "go away trany" even though im not trans, can we do something about the death threats?

why do you care mf let him complain, who tf are you to judge people who complain, let people do what they want to

second entry as a duelist in neon meta? are we going sacrifice initiator util for a couple of flashes? he won't be used unless it's like sadhaak

pheonix is still the worst duelist, provides literal no value to teammates, only has selfish util

you just hate america it seems, probably chinese, infected with the oh country my country virus, I would say heinous things now but I would get banned
fwiw i think metric system is better and america sucks for using fucking inches and shit, I am open to change most of you fuckers remain the same throughout their shit lives and die meaningless

peaceful coexistence is letting people be free, you are scared of change and cannot accept something different from your views, weak fucker

transphobic fucks, says live and let live, trans people aren't living then? what harm do they do to you? they're just living, "don't try to normalise the abnormal" transgenderism has always been normal since long ago, fuck off expected from the chinese mfs

this user is super weird, i know this isn't a genuine or a sincere question but nobody thinks this is funny, this user is so starved of attention irl that they make threads like these and live on the iota of attention they get

primmie threads are baits and a copy pasta nobody in their right mind believes that, trump is trump, this guy should be banned

it's gonna be so fire when less top frags but vitality still implodes

where did count and lieahh go, they had good posts ngl

that one is so unoriginal it's like from the 80s, you should get better insults tbh

i support all iterations of sen, except the dephh thing, your team doesn't even exist anymore

you should meet attack on titan fans

riens is so much better than wo0t, he is probably the best emea player rn, but atleast wo0t has insane performances in some matches, primmie has done nothing

bro used the stalest and most unoriginal insult of all time, good job, btw I never insulted you, you stray away to insults every time some one has a different opinion than you

W messi fan

i mean sure he's good and probably will perform good but he hasn't so saying he has the best mechanics isn't true, also comparing him to simple zywoo and faker is crazy cuz that's never going to happen

did the deadlock have a perfect game? 1000 tracker score

buddy they believe it, and if you think it's bait you wouldn't be here to defend it everytime some calls out primmie

i mean does your team have 2 trophies? didn't think so.

im a sen fan, there. i have never put on a flair idk why.
all the optic people stuck in the past here now.