This is sad to watch

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Simp4S0m

It’s gonna be exciting to see different teams qualify for Shanghai, but it’s sad to watch the Madrid teams struggling right now. Do you think they are really burned out? Hope they recover in champs and we get to see these teams at their best again

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sen burnt out from off season
idk wtf is happening to geng tbh
loud got cucked by format
NRG sucks
TH and Karmine corp are doing fine tbh

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Simp4S0m

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Blud snuck in NRG. We don’t deserve to be mentioned with those teams

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Waking_W

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finally a sane nrg fan

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yeah your more worse than them

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geng had to face termi bro

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Klaw69

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from off-season?

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think he means they've been grinding non stop since the off-season began. They played showmatches, did their own tourney, won afreecaTV, then took the hardest route to winning madrid which is why they're exhausted

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How did LOUD get cucked lmao. They played bad

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laeDLaer

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burnt out they say xDD go look at cs teams and how much they play. you dont see any of them making excuses when they lose

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Simp4S0m

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I wanted to point out that tbh lolz they are professional players. I just see a lot of Valorant pros complain about the number of games.

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laeDLaer

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#1 cs team playing 7 events from now until september. already played 4 this year

https://www.hltv.org/team/6667/faze#tab-eventsBox

meanwhile valorant pros complaining about 1 event

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tHERmal_

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the pros arent complaining? its just people saying they are?

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strify

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CS has the same boring exec though, there isn't any hard anti strat. Meanwhile valorant has just a bunch of shit util you need to watch out for, and the team comps just differs between teams

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pullupthen

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just say your region is dog shit in cs just like us

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yes

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Waking_W

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CS doesnt have so much depending on macros of strategy

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laeDLaer

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i dont think you watch if you say this.

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Waking_W

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I havent been watching cs2 but I have seen a lot of CS, teams change plans against different teams but the overall gameplay remains the same, rounds arent played around ultimates or viper walls/orbs like in valo, the overall strategic depth in valo makes it much much harder to prepare your team plans as a coach imo , If you had seen loud vs sen madrid playoffs game, you might have noticed how sen were using their own viper orb in mid ( a little deeper) on split , this was their change in gameplan from last time they lost to them on split and it worked, so yeah the macros in valo are much more deep

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pullupthen

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you're favorite val pros are failed csgo pros stuck in tier 3

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Waking_W

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who

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zyroware

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ur comparing valorant teams to cs teams?? lmaooo???

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laeDLaer

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yes? same game except 1 is made to be noob friendly + abilities.

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zyroware

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you must be stupid to compare 2 different games. valorant has more abilities and each player in the esports has its own role and can play 1 role LMAOO

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laeDLaer

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each player in the esports has its own role

ummm its the same in cs lil bro

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zyroware

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still 2 different games with different playstyles and strategies ''lil bro''

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not that surprising. kickoff was a bad format which didn't allow for any actual consistency. and every year the state of valorant only gets better as the year progresses with more time spent during the season scrimming and coming up with new ideas and adapting better to meta changes (1 example would be gekko being played more on maps like Bind which wasn't the case earlier in kickoff)

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burned out is a lame and convenient excuse for a lazy ass bums, like what? 2 tournaments already burned out? meanwhile their competitors and even in different games (ex: League) ain't hearing burned out in the middle of season even western teams like LEC and LCS JAJAJAJAJAJA

both sentinels and geng are inconsistent and overperformed their way in madrid JAJAJAJA

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you ain't wrong.

there's a fine line between being "burned out" and just being lazy. if you're tired and drained after playing a lot of games and training, that is literally just normal. anybody who goes to school or works a job experiences this.

being burned out is when you physically/mentally can not do anymore because your body is completely done. you become cynical, isolated, confused all the time etc. it's a serious thing and we can't just be using it as an excuse whenever we can't perform. riot would be under a lot of heat if the league was giving players mental health issues.

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iframedeez

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ya it's crazy how their fans use burned out excuse without a second thought. it's in the middle of season if they really burned out then they need take a break and not compete or in extreme case retired. there's pretty competitive people out there aiming for your spot

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tultakurza

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there's pretty competitive people out there aiming for your spot

facts, there are 100s of tier 2 players who will happily take the spot xd.

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Dybala21

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Some weirdos in this thread lol

“ But CS pros don’t complaint”
“LOL pros dont have burnout”

And what? This is valorant site. We talk valorant not other games😅

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Facts. Also, you're a legend if you're a fan of Dybala

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Dybala21

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Been a fan of him since his early Juventus days (2015-2017 my favourite period of him)

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geospliced

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My friends and I always talk about how his career would've been so much greater had he not suffered so many injuried but imo he is truly the most underrated gem of his generation.

And he's a favorite footballer among my friends who aren't even Juventus/Roma fans lol

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Dybala21

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Yeah but still I’ll always support him through thick and thin
One and only La Joya

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Indeed