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Why FNATIC is still the best team of 2023

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#1
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

Due to my calculations and concise prozessing of Data, i have come to the following conclusion

BEST TEAM OF 2023

LOUD

Not a contender in first place, 0 - 2 in Tokyo

PRX

Not a contender either because they dropped first round in LOCK IN

EG

Not a contender either, dropped 2nd round in LOCK IN

FNATIC

1st in LOCK IN, 1st in Tokyo, 4th in Champions

The only team getting close to FNATIC is LOUD, both LOUD and EG were runner ups this year but LOUD atleast has beaten FNC twice and had a good LOCK IN run (we dont talk about tokyo)

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Whoever wins champs will be the best team
Champs winners prize money is double that of masters + lockin combined lmao
Im not saying lockin and masters are small tourneys but champs >>> masters , theres a lcq for the event lmao .

If prx win they will come 3rd in tokyo with sub + champs trophy . Bad in lockin but champs >>>>>>>>> lockin
If Eg win then 2nd in tokyo and champs . Again they would be the best
Only if loud win it may be debatable if fnc is the best because loud has terrible tokyo , but even then i would say that loud is better because they beat fnc 2 times + almost in lockin and also champs > masters + lockin

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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Are you able to read? Best team of 2023 i dont care who wins champs, The team that wins champs is the best team in CHAMPS

FNATIC won 2 tournaments in a row, something no team has done yet. And they even reach Top 4. What more could you do????????

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What more could you do? win champs instead of winning 2 way smaller tournaments
Champs is UCL , masters is like a league title and lockin is like some invitational tournament or showmatch like psg vs al nassr
Edit - Champs is World cup , masters is ucl , vct leagues are like the leagues to qualify for ucl . and lockin is like some preseason showmatch

#13
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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horrible comparison

#17
jackb2016
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lockin is carabao cup

#38
TSM_Shreyash
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community shield

#45
FineByMe
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Audi Cup

#21
Barss
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nah champs only dont matter when its an anyone but eu winning it

#48
Okoretro
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so acend was the best 2021 team because they won champs? delusional lmao

#44
1king
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what more could you do? Win the most important tournament against tried and tested best teams in all regions. No one reasonable is going to weight a single-elim kick off where you play 5 matches more than champs.

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yea PRX arent the best team of the year. They are the best towards the end but FNC were definitely best of the year especially if were gonna be using placements to measure that. In terms of individual play tho i think PRX far surpassed FNC already. I never thought FNC were insanely good it was just a matter of not having teams like Optic and Loud of last year this year. Navi falling off, DRX getting worse each tournament post champs. This years competition was abysmal imo compared to last year where other than Copenhagen we had 4 teams that could genuinely contest for the win at least, (tho Iceland shouldve been 5 Loud, FNC, Optic, FPX, and Zeta or PRX, we didnt get to see both the top EMEA teams who I thought were far above the rest at the time).

#58
paul1778
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Fnc won 2 out of 3 tournaments this year and placed 4th in Champions. They obviously are best the team this year.

#60
B1itz
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I guess that means you think Acend was the best team of 2021

#61
Altaria
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Ah yes, somehow the amount of prizepool is an important factor to be the best team of the year

#65
cholikarr
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yea it shows it has more weightage

#3
GrimmjowJaegerjaquez
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That is a factual assertion, but some NA fans will still deny and lean on Brazil as sure as shit they can't win anything on their own.

#5
yukky
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never seen fnatic win a red bull home ground so 100t is clearly better than fnatic

#9
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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understandable have a nice day

#11
yukky
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it’s night for me 😡😡 but u have good day

#6
michaelisupset
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did fnatic win ludwig x tarik invitational? no. i dont think so. guard team of the year

#7
Pengu12
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Did fnc win gxr racer? Didn’t think so Prx clears

#8
koromast
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lock//in more important than champions and masters now apparently???

#12
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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LOUD LOCK IN : 2nd
EG TOKYO : 2nd

LOUD Teams beaten in Tokyo : 0 (Lost to EG and EDG)
EG Teams beaten in LOCK IN : 1 (Won against Heretics 💀)

LOUD beat FNATIC (best team) 2 times this year
EG lost to FNATIC 2 times this year

#19
koromast
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why would h2h matter

#22
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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ok EG 2nd best team

FNATIC still 1st tho

#26
koromast
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only way fnc first its if loud wins but loud would be the best team ever because of 2 champs

#47
SENTINELA_SACY_FAN
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🫵🤡

#14
Shuyaa
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cope

#15
SmartPerson
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how about the team that they lose twice on the most important tournament of the year?

#16
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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Ghosted Tokyo

#18
SmartPerson
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fnc ghosted Champions nt

#23
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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Top 4 = ghosted?

braindead

#24
SmartPerson
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fnatic was expected to win the event, instead of """"best team""""" It is actually the biggest disappointment, this thread is a joke as your life

#28
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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a joke as your life

what the fuck man i thought were cool and shit

#59
SmartPerson
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im kidding >< sorry i doesnt want to be rude with u honey :3

#64
NA_SO_SHIT
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Brother quoted "best team" four times.

this thread is a joke as your life

Nice English, work on it before trying to call someones life a joke

#70
SmartPerson
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Sorry for born in a country that doesnt speak english your piece of shit at least i know how to call you a piece of shit >< :3 but you better rlly shut up not kidding this time

#71
NA_SO_SHIT
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Shiver me timbers.

#20
bronzil_enjoyer
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not reading allat

#25
Abstract17
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FNC
not a contender coz dropped 4th in Champions (The main and the most important event of the year)

#27
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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4th in champions is a greater achievement than being 0-2 in tokyo or second rounded in lock in

#31
Abstract17
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cmon bro we know Lock in was a mickey mouse tournament

#35
YeeeStefan
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mf said a once in a lifetime tournament with all 32 franchised teams is a MM tournament LMFAO.

#49
widepeepofrosty
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Crazy how you left out the fact that it is single elimination to showcase the new franchise teams, not to mention that the teams had like no strats and were there for fun…

#56
YeeeStefan
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Cuz it doesn't mather? A MM tournament defines a tournament with smaller prize pools, not from first party organizations, and weaker / non-franchised teams. To call an official riot tournament a MM tournament is delusional lmfao

#63
Abstract17
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winning an argument with a 100T fan (IMPOSSIBLE) and apparently the ONCE IN A LIFETIME TOURNAMENT had the lowest prizepool of all the intl LANs in the history of VALORANT
also cope harder

#29
CringePlayer
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Fnatic aren't even better than EG lil bro. Cope and seeth.

EG hard threw massive rounds in UBF in Tokyo on Split, plus Leo life game. 9 times out of 10 that series goes EGs way.
Fnatic had 2 map advantage in GF (Lotus and Bind also accounted for over 70% of their maps played, fraudulent 2 map team). EG 3-0 them if they win UBF.

Anyone who has any braincells and actually watched those series know Fnatic were not the better team, and never will be. FRod exposed Fraudnatic for being the group of shitters that they actually were.

#39
YeeeStefan
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Yeah they obviously only won out of sheer luck. I mean it's so easy to win against a top 3 team internationally 2 times in a row and one of them was a 3-0.

#40
starxito_sike
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it seems like a huge skill issue for EG if they cant win UBF, what is this excuse they would 3-0 them if they win UBF, anyone who watched the match knew fnc was better vs EG, was 7-12 up and lost bind bro cmon and 13-8 lotus, 2 map team kkkkkk, why didnt other teams choose haven or ascent in tokyo if they were a 2 map team you braindead fuck, eg could have easily gone with ascent first in ubf and gf

#72
CringePlayer
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Never call me braindead again you retarded American fuck. EG clears ur shitter Fraudnatic team. Cope. Fnatic broke down the second they started losing on the only maps they could win.

EG are Champs, while Fnatic are crying on twitter

#57
BairyHalls
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0-5

#68
DDot
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no way bro said Leo LIFE GAME, theres no such thing the guy is so good that his normal game is considered a life game

#30
titanwithpp
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FNC is already a legendary team in Valorant (unless LOUD wins champs)

#32
firo
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winning 2 consecutive internatl lans is no easy feat. after winning, all teams will be looking at what they do and try to counter them, they have the target on their heads.

#36
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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speakin facts

#37
cholikarr
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No one is saying it is not impressive
But champs > masters + lockin
Especially because champs this year has 1.5x prizepool of masters + lockin combined

#69
DDot
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so with ur logic prize pool>>tournaments?

#33
horse69
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#34
cholikarr
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Best teams of 2023 -
1) Winner of champs
2) FNC
3) 2nd in champs
4) 3rd in champs

#41
YeeeStefan
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Arguing like this, you're saying Acend was the best team in 2021?

#42
cholikarr
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No because acend didnt come top 4 in any other tourney in 2021
If prx win they wouldve come 3rd in tokyo with sub + this
Loud came 2nd in lockin
EG came 2nd in tokyo
Thats why i wrote 2023

#46
YeeeStefan
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Fair enough. I still regard FNC the best team in 2023. They came 4th while all teams had an eye on FNC after winning 2 tournaments in a row. Massive feat for them ngl

#43
Sh1rpie
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So if heretics would get 2nd in champs would they be a better team this year than say, DRX or PRX/LOUD?

#53
cholikarr
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I made this because top 4 have already been decided , not using it as a template lol
Read #42

#50
shinehh
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stopped reading at CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

#52
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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Racially motivated

#54
yUU-Yuu
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lil bro no one remember the 4th its always the 1st and all that lock in master tournament is nonsense if you dont win the champion because its the biggest tournament of the year and the last VCT tournament of the year

#55
ohnyfans
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0/8

#62
cobalt21312
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bait used to be believable

#66
DDot
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Honestly don't understand how this is even up for debate, FNC are by far the best team of 2023 people saying they aren't because they lost to LOUD twice and placed top 4 are delusional clearly none of u know the meaning of having a target on your back.

Imagine being the best for two tournaments in a row going undefeated in both and also in ur league season (apart from the finals) and still not being called the best team of the year. People seem to underestimate how difficult it is to be the best and stay there for a long period of time, especially with a game like valorant where meta and agents are forever changing and you need to adapt to something new or different every tournament or even game. The bounty on their heads wouldve been gigantic after the last tournaments and that was so obvious with these LOUD games. You can clearly see how much VOD reviewing and time Saadhak and their coaches put into watching how FNATIC plays because believe me if they didn't FNATIC would definitely be in the grand finals or lower finals from the upper bracket.

#67
1lucasdp
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no, the team that wins the Champions will be the best team in 2023, there's no point in winning two tournaments and not winning the most important one.

#73
NioMS
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Yeah sure buddy let's just take a vacation all year long and show nothing just to play champions

Just shush brother

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