Victor on duelist

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WinterZ20

thoughts?

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Mortadelo

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Good raze
Prob good Neon
Not good enough Jett

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WinterZ20

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what makes you say he's not good enough on Jett?

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Mortadelo

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Just what I remember from watching him play it last year on the very few maps he did. And I just don't think he has the firepower other world class Jett's do which is key imo. I'm not saying he is not good, I'm saying NRG should be aiming to win it all, and I just don't think you can win it all with victor as your Jett

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WinterZ20

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nah when I watched Vic play jett this year I was surprised at how good it was

I believe he could def dominate on Jett if given the chance

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Mortadelo

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Why do you think he has not been given that chance then? He has only played 2 maps of Jett this year my friend.

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WinterZ20

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because ardiis is too uncomfortable on Raze for Victor to be able to play Jett

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Mortadelo

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No no, why do they sign a Jett then is my question if they already have a good enough one. It's easier to find someone on any of the other roles Victor plays

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WinterZ20

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because Victor is mostly known for his flex

but even if that is the case, it does not mean that he is bad on duelist either

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Mortadelo

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I never said he is bad, I said he is not good enough to be NRG's duelist. #17 last paragraph is the best explanation I can give

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WinterZ20

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maybe but you have to admit that, as it stands, ardiis has been the 4th worst player on NRG this year and Victor on duelist would definitely be much better than ardiis in terms of both versatility and fragging power.

Ntm that if NRG gets some cracked flex to fill the flex role that Vic would leave behind then it adds even more firepower to NRG

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TrialRunnr

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He is good on Jett, he just hasnt played many games on Jett.
His Neon is good too but he is gonna need someone else to frag out cus his main job is to create space on that agent.

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Haha you don’t know Victor if you think his jett is bad

Look at his jett stats and his past games on jett

He is literally better than ardiis

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Mortadelo

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1 Not good enough ≠ not good, we're talking about a team that wants to win it all. Is he a better Jett than Demon1 or Aspas?
2 No, he is not a better Jett than ardiis, but he is a better everything else

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Asuna_Yuuki

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He is a better jett than ardiis bro

Go back to last year’s games and he was fragging out and doing really well

Even this year, he only played jett twice and went crazy

I think u just don’t like Victor because I remember you said he was the problem and wasn’t good enough after LOCK IN

The only reason Victor wasn’t on jett was that ardiis isn’t good enough on other agents

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Mortadelo

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The only reason Victor wasn’t on jett was that ardiis isn’t good enough on other agents

See that's where we disagree. I see it the other way around. The only reason why they signed ardiis is because they knew Victor wasn't a good enough Jett, and the team knew
Bro Victor has played 11 Jett maps on his life, 2 this year, yeah he did well on those 2 maps this year, and I think you're just remembering those 2 maps instead of the whole picture.

Alright bro, let's do something, forget everything else we disagree on, rank me all of Americas Jett's, or at least the top 5 of them, see where we place Victor

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Yea but when they signed ardiis it was still chamber meta I’m pretty sure so I think they originally wanted ardiis on chamber and victor on duelist like OpTic last year

Aspas
Demon1
Victor
Leaf
Keznit

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Mortadelo

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Alright if that is your actual ranking then yes Victor Duelist is your move. I rank Victor below both Leaf and Keznit. Which means imo he is not a top 5 Jett in his region, therefore not "good enough" for a team whose goal should be to win champs. I don't think we're gonna agree on how to rank those 5 players, but I hope at least you get my point a bit more now

OPTC was able to win an event with the best duelist in the world on their team, and I believe that core can't do it again unless they have something like that again. And that is way passed Victors celling imo

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uwukitten

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I'd move leaf and keznit up and replace victor with dgzin who I think is really underrated, his only problem is that he overheats sometimes

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geometrix

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he play raze and neon also used to play lots of phoenix and hes good at it