Time to admit it

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SaltyMcNulty

CS esports is the better esports and it's largely because of the CS esports management. They have better stages, better crowd management, better fixture, more hype. In almost everything other than the game itself, CS does it better.

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number1_cned_hater

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gambling system in cs also helps

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yawnster

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🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥PROMOTE GAMBLING TO CHILDREN 🗣️🗣️🗣️📢📢📢🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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reycac

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you're on a site with gambling ads

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yawnster

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Yeah its this site thats doing this, Riot is actively stopping gambling partnership with teams.

Unlike when G2 Cs got Monesy to promote a betting site just a day after his 18th birthday 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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reycac

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tbh riot had an ftx sponsor last year which isn't much better

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CalOtter

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are you comparing crypto to children gambling

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reycac

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do you know anything about the ftx situation? lots of people lost their money and it was basically a scam,a lot of the celebrities who promoted it are currently being sued

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NICEGO

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That has nothing to do with children's gambling.

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reycac

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putting your money into ftx was basically gambling how is that not the same

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NICEGO

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You're just being stupid. It's an investment.

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reycac

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so if i put money in the bank then someone steals it that's just an investment?

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propulsion

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that's crypto lil bro

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terribletyranny

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bro CS esports has been here since like 2006 what the fuck are you on about surely theyre going to be better

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SaltyMcNulty

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RIOT has been handling esports events for ages yet their valorant division runs things like straight novices. What are you on about?

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Nrg_Finesse_

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Ask riot about it son why here crying on vlr

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terribletyranny

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because League esports have also had 10 years of experience to cater specifically curated experience for each event and fanbase, while Valorant has had the shorter part of 3
stop crying and let it marinate for another few years so they can iron out the wrinkles

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Kkonakorner

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the biggest problems with val production is that the game is just so shit to observe and cast

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Nrg_Finesse_

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Rare Navi fan W

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dapada

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esports? yes definitely true as of now
else? nah, valorant clears

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yukky

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val e sports has been going for like 3 years, of course cs production is going to be a bit better

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Did cs have even a fraction of all of that in the first 2 years of it's launch tho

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Kkonakorner

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yes it did,also its a completely different situation nw,when cs was 3 years old esports wasn't nearly as developed as it is now,events didnt have 10 tech pauses a match and shit observing

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Gutssz

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League clears both

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deathlyclaws

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From Asian scene perspective definitely NO

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lockee

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CS is the best esports game since 2001.

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DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN

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i would hope they've had 10 years to figure it out

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Kkonakorner

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cs wasnt having 20 tech pauses a day at any point, they did it better with 2015 equipment than riot does with todays tech hahaha

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NICEGO

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But the viewership are getting lower and lower.Why?

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Kkonakorner

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maybe because ence has 0 fans, the viewership is not getting lower and lower btw,this cologne has a higher viewership than the previous.
tokyo didn't have a much better viewership excluding the final

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NICEGO

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What?
IEM Cologne average viewers:281152-300000?
peak viewers:600000-750000?
Masters Tokyo average viewers:338447
peak viewers:830369

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Kkonakorner

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that is why i said not much better,the wiewership is not getting "lower and lower"

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NICEGO

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Isn't it getting lower and lower that the ratings for Cologne are lower this year than they were last year?

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Kkonakorner

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the average viewership is higher than last year,u are comparing this final to a 5 map prime faze vs Navi banger with tarik watch party etc, pretty hard to top that

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NICEGO

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I have proved your initial statement wrong with the data that IEM Cologne viewership is not higher than Masters Tokyo. I don't want to talk to you anymore. It's a bit tiring.

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Kkonakorner

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can u understand the English language correctly,u can talk like ur smart but cant understand very simple sentences, its a bit tiring,i never said iem cologne viewership is higher than masters tokyo,i said masters tokyo was not much better

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NICEGO

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I forgot to mention that Katowice and Major are down. You neglected to mention those two.

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Kkonakorner

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and masters Tokyo was down compared to lock in,copenhagen was down compared to Reykjavik, berlin was down compared to Reykjavik
maybe just maybe because those lans were some f the first after covid and with way better teams in playoffs like new g2,faze,navi etc,if u look further than 1 year cs viewership has boomed since 2019

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Ullyr

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literally cause random teams without fan base keep making finals. Been saying that viewership numbers don't lie for past 2 majors which is why I wonder why they opt for full open system. Imagine if random teams keep upsetting idk how that's good for an org/player fan base.

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firefirefirefire

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what i'll give to block to eternity all these csjoe rats that keep crawling to this site every time that a big event is happening

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NICEGO

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It's okay, bro. Go look at the cs viewership. You'll be happy.

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firefirefirefire

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Honestly, i dont even care anymore if CS is doing better or worse than before, i just dont want know anything about that game or community, let them exists along with Valorant, if i wanted to know that their production is better, or that x player is better than any other ex cs player that is currently a Valorant pro i would go to hltv.

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bro is mad tenz is getting dropped

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Pengu12

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?

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ShuGo

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CS isn’t even a decent game to touch, much less their sub-par E-Sports, Rito clears

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dapada

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CS HAS JESUS WATCHING THEIR GRAND FINALS
ITS LITERALLY JOEVER FOR VALORANT