would of lost hard if sayf played and if nats played good first map, sad shit bros
"if" nats played good, you're thinking the most wrong possible way there. It's like me saying we would've won easy if shao went +25 like usual. He played bad cause NAVI made him play bad. And don't forget LIQUID had sayf all along and still lost against vitality with him going nuts regardless (let's not talk about lock in ...)
You're just making assumptions based on nothing, "they look better they'd win easily". That's not true, they had a match and lost that's the reality. You guys are overreacting over 2 matches of liquid winning against shit teams. The fact is that they still have a lot to prove against tier 1 teams and until they do (unlike NAVI who has nothing to prove and running yoru everywhere cause they know they got playoffs secured btw) they shouldn't be on the tier 1 category. That's all
U are actually so braindead. So by ur logic navi wouldn't win against koi now right? TL is still the 3rd best team in emea and would still most likely make tokyo. They are tier 1 whether u like it or not and the fact that playing with a sub and without their best player still got them this close to navi proves they are indeed tier 1 and can stand toe to toe against the best international teams. They might have lost to vit and ts but they will definitely beat them if they face them now. Go cry me a river