zeta division fix

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melodymur

These guys used to be insane back then, winning their duels, great strats & calls, what happened and how can we fix that

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MainlyMusubi

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Drop Fraud Coaches

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pixh

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get better brackets

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boot camp in eu maybe

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CanadianLegend

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Mentality Coach and Better Bracket 😭

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koromast

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i havent seen zeta against a weak team in a while so i cant tell if its just unlucky or if they really suck (same with kru for a while, their only "easy" match last year was xerxia

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Stratos

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They played against BOOM but they're still struggled to win against them

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Verstepping33

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Champions 2022 group C elimination..

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Subreezy

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boom sadge

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eeeeeeeee

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+syouta and popogachi
-crow and ten

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koromast

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but syouta plays the same role as sugar z3ro id rather get xdll or someone from cr

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thatpower

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there's 0 chance anyone from cr joins. too much clout from that org. otherwise, some of the players would have joined dfm already

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koromast

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well thats true actually i hope players from fennel or other orgs join zeta or dfm because otherwse jp is damned to not qualify for tokyo.

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shellyy

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otherwise, some of the players would have joined dfm already

Well actually, they're the one who don't want to leave CR for another org. 😊

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thatpower

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yeah

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soonwookong

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maybe get thiefy, he's quite flexy and is quite promising, agree abt xdll tho

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Tooker

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Tenn has proved in the past that he can pop off on the raze, and did really well on it in Iceland. I think it's worth noting that ever since Reykjavik zeta's only losses have been to what most people would consider best teams in the world in loud, fnc, drx, and Lev who are really good. (Plus two loses to tln and nth). The real issue seems to be that when dep is playing Jett, their duelist isn't as consistent, and their starts don't have a ton of depth to them. My suggestion would be move dep to Perma sentinel role or pick up something or another duelist to replace him.

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sueYA

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ten is actually decent and very good at clutches
crow just aint good anymore

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Ullyr

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okay hear me out. Japan need to hold an emergency blue lock tournament. Get their top 300 players in both tier 1 and tier 2 scene/rank games. Give them a series of tests to test mechanics, movement, aim, crosshair placement, trades, and utility usage. Make them play 5v5. The top 5 players form a team and dominate Valorant Masters tokyo lan and Champions....

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archetype

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bit more to it than that but they should look to consolidating their top talent yes

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Ullyr

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imagine if every region did a valorant blue lock KEKW

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Chirby

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would be insane ngl

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Marshal_D_Teach

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-crow
-dep

+something
+vici

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meadows

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if they could make the comms work they would become a force.

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Some Russian people living in the far east russia speak japanese

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meadows

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yeah but from my understanding Sengoku comm in basic english because something and vici don't speak japanese. I could be wrong though obviously i don't know any of the players lol

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Tooker

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Pretty sure Zeta really want to keep a full JP roster, but I could be wrong. I think ever since the roster moved from CS to val, they haven't had a single import, but I could be wrong

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M0K1

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can only take 1 import russians count as emea right?

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Mortadelo

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Unless one’s of them lives or has Japanese citizenship yes

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Marshal_D_Teach

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I thought the rule was max 2 imports

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M0K1

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for t2 its 2 import max + 3 from region
for t1 its 1 import max(from other 2 leagues) + 4 from league region

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GooberBoy

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Popogachi for Crow
CLZ for Tenn
move Dep to a flex role that he's much better at, CLZ on entry, Sugar and Laz co-igl.

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kusoboshi

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lowkey yeah LOWKEY they got carried by chamber by a fair bit

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Ziro

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I think AIM diff...

See how stacked is Furia, FNC, TL, FNATIC, LOUD

ZETA would never defeat these teams even with proper tactics because they clearly AIM diff too much

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Ullyr

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japan need to consolidate their talents from tier1/tier2/ranked. Like i'm sure they have some young talents that have really good aim and mechanics.

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drag69

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Na don't disrespect Laz like that, his aim is insane

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Ullyr

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I don't think anyone blame laz. He's clearly the best player on zeta maybe all of japan atm.

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YshouldICare

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He snuck TL in and thought we wouldn't notice 💀

#22

melon_fan

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Wait for split 1 tbh

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Chirby

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Mentality coach
Replace TENN
If sugarzero IGLs replace crow

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melon_fan

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Why ppl keep saying ur 3rd point can someone explain?

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Chirby

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Sugarzero tweeted that he was IGLing during the game against LEV (Usually crow IGLs)
If crow no-longer IGLs then he doesn't bring that much to the table compared to a different player with more firepower

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kirito5133

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before sugerzero igling it was laz igling. i am not sure tho but i remember something about it

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Chirby

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Japanese fans refer to him as team captain, but crow was IGL before the game against LEV

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Tooker

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I could be wrong, but I thought Laz igls.

Liquipedia says sugarz3ro but I could've sworn it was Laz at some point, maybe he was just the captain tho.

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Sprouts

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he’s always been the team captain, never IGL. I made the same mistake before too cause Liquipedia use to give him the little crown for some reason even though crow was the IGL at the time

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They've never been the same after TENNN's eyes injury tbh. Dep isn't that consistent too imo. Not to say after Chamber's nerf, Laz moves to Killjoy (he's okay with that but less firepower unlike Laz Chamber). SugarZ3ro is doing God's work even though he's IGLing for the first time and crow... maybe they need to replace him for real. I don't really know how's their chemistry if Barce (their 6th man) joins in though.

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melon_fan

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Ok it’s time to put Laz on Jett

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Ullyr

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Laz and sugar zero the backbone of zeta atm. They need to try new players I feel like the others are too inconsistent.

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shellyy

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I've never seen Laz on any duelist, even in his ranked games tbh. 😂

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Closer

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-crow -dep

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NajibRazak

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-crow -dep + something +bravaf for Russian diff
Or + something + popogachi

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-Laz -Sugarzero +yay +marved

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Sign korena player

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redlight

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-crow (move him to coaching)
-TENNN (i can't believe it, but his time is done)
+Thiefy (sentinel)
Or if possible: swap TENNN for Xnfri from DFM.

I would get SyouTa but his roles clashes with SugarZ3ro.

IF CR isn't an option:
+CLZ (main duelist, move Dep to flex)

If CR is an option:
+Meiy (main duelist, move Dep to flex)

So roles would be:

Laz - Initiator
SugarZ3ro - Controller
Dep/Xnfri (if swap deal) - Flex
Thiefy - Sentinel
CLZ/Meiy/Dep (if swap deal) - Duelist

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BoF7ooM

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Soo good back then? How? That was flukest and luckiest run of the century. Infact they couldn't even qualify for the next tourney.
They need to replace crow and get tenn of duelist and sentinels. Dep is just a shit jett, his consistency is not even on par with even inconsistent players like keloqz, fitinho.

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orqn

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1 roster change maybe a cracked 16 year old
fly to EU, lock them in a room and let them bootcamp 24/7

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Flyingcat

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Zeta divison is overrated asf. Just 1 good tournament🥱

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Chow1E

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They need to build around 5 cracked duelist player, like drx did

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Bootcamp Brazil

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warriorzz

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home crowd buff in tokio