ASPAS VS MWZERA DEBATE

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gutszeraa

can we stop the debate over who is the best BR player now? aspas can give you a lead in a map and have some flashy 3ks or 4ks but when it's tied up or LOUD is down a round he disappears, making it so the rest of the team always has to bail him out. does not at all have the killer instinct like mwzera lmfao

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mwzera >>>

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gutszeraa

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aspas most overrated super star in T1. still top 10 but not even close to top 5 or top 3 like people were saying he was in iceland or copenhagen. gets so little flack compared to mw

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dexter000111

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top 10 but not even close to top 5

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gutszeraa

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jingg, yay, derke, alfajer, shao, nats, forsaken, scream. what three players here is aspas better than?

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asdfval

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nats? might as well add tenz to this list too bro

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aTastyCook1e

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Memewzera never qualified for an international event. The end.

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gutszeraa

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mw also has never had a super team like aspas lol. also he literally has?

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wizardbot

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He didn't qualify he was loaned to vk after they had qualified

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aTastyCook1e

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He never qualified for an international event, he was INVITED to replace ntk at VK.

https://www.vlr.gg/129713/mwzera-curiosity

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wizardbot

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'memewzera' never had a team around him as good as loud either. He's definitely not better than aspan but its an very unfair comparison

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aTastyCook1e

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Just see the 1v1 Aspas x Memewzera duels, 9x2 there is no discussion.

https://www.vlr.gg/77810/loud-vs-keyd-stars-champions-tour-brazil-stage-1-challengers-1-ubsf/?game=all&tab=performance

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gutszeraa

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just tell me you didnt watch the game lmfao. mwzera was stunned, flash, or tagged for half of those duels. almost its gonna be easy for you to get kills when you have the best supporting cast in br

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aTastyCook1e

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA If that's as many arguments as you have against my facts, I don't even have to answer you...

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gutszeraa

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almost like your "facts" mean nothing without context. i too can kill mwzera 9 times if he's always stunned lol

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number1_MIBR_hater

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Mwzera never qualified to any international event by his own (when playing with VK, he was loaned and VK was already there)

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gutszeraa

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notice how mwzera is held to the standard that he has to "qualify to an international event on his own" but aspas gets no flack for basically having 0 team accomplishments before joining loud

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number1_MIBR_hater

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Aspas started playing vct on split 2 iirc, he was just a minor playing ranked before, don't be stupid.
Mwzera has been playing competitive since 2020 and never got anything other than first strike playing with no meta against farmers

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gutszeraa

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he was also playing WITH farmers lmfao. nobody he's played with other than jonn has gone on to do anything after he's stopped playing with them. and to be fair aspas was also playing with farmers, except aspas could only carry those farmers to top 10-8 BR whereas mwzera consistently carried his farmers to semifinals

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PamelaChu

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Bro what happened to avast in platchat im sure u know

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minte

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Trembo come

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narguis

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I feel trembolonarage coming

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nutab1e

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5 paragraph essay with 20+ links to clips and matches incoming

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trembolonaRage

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mwzera have been delivering insane stats since 2020, he managed to get an ACS of 300+ a single tourney back in 2020

while i cant deny that aspas is very talented, there is literally no comparison between them
mwzera is constantly dropping amazing numbers with different class of agents, he have been to multiple teams with different people with different IGLs and his performance simply doesnt decrease, for an insane amount of rounds, for months, for years!

aspas have what? like 30 matches as a pro?
you cant compare them

aspas also play for the best br team atm, a team who have been stomping every single team in brazil, which is also a massive boost in his stats, his job is basically to press mouse1 while most of his enemies are stunned/blind
remove saadhak+sacy from his team and then we can see how he performs and his real level of fragging power

here is what happened when they faced eachother with teams of same level
https://www.vlr.gg/26918/gamelanders-blue-vs-slick-champions-tour-brazil-stage-3-challengers-2-decider-b/?game=all&tab=overview
mwzera +19, 11-1 FK, 200 ADR, 335 ACS
One of the most iconic performances of all time

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PamelaChu

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Sheesh that was a HS

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number1_MIBR_hater

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Dude compared Gamelanders to slick 💀💀💀

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gutszeraa

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slick literally got worse after they added aspas LOL. went from top 8-6 in BR to being in the middle of t2, whereas we all know what happened to GLB after mwzera left

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Enzolp

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Dude saying different class of agents when he is a otp raze lmaoo

EDIT: MWZERA LAST EVENT:

1 map skye -5
1 map kayo -9
1 map chamber -+0
total: -14

7 maps raze +32

dropping amazing numbers with different class of agents MY ASS LMAOOO

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Ernno

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aspas ficou 11-10 contra o mw aí btw.

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capital_d_colon

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2020? we in 2022. thats like me saying steel is still good

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Ok, trembolona

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Mevler

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Muito difícil escolher.... Os dois são os reis do cenário br! Monstros sagrados!

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aTastyCook1e

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Just see the 1v1 Aspas x Memewzera duels, 9x2 there is no discussion.

https://www.vlr.gg/77810/loud-vs-keyd-stars-champions-tour-brazil-stage-1-challengers-1-ubsf/?game=all&tab=performance

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matiasqnt

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Heat>>>

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Shidoh

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heat be like
without my jett i can't 😭😭😭

while mwzera be like
without my raze i can't 😭😭😭

both are the best in the world with these IMO, but without them they kinda whiff way too much

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R4BOCOP

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Who cars

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cioccolat

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There are cars in Val?

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mwzera is way better

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1mBor3d

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both mid

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brahianv

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mwzera stats would go down very fast if the competition was on the same level aspas faces cant compare to guys thats never been on lan.