no troll it could actually be very possible
loud can very well win against Optic if they pop off
XSET plays second seed of one of the groups, so eitehr KRU/LOUD or FPX/XERXIA/NTH
and I think XSET definelty loses to KRU/LOUD, especially since its their first game
if they get group B second seed they could be playing full team FPX if suygetsu gets back or even just FPX with seider, they will only get better in the next 2 days with the sub